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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: And you thought COBOL was readable?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 22:42:12
Message: <4a9f2d04$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> True.  Sometimes people get lost on the ambition to write a sort of 
> interactive novel and forget about gameplay.

Interestingly, the reason I posted that is I finally came up with an idea 
for a piece of interactive fiction to write.

> Writing is about as good as you can get too, the guy is not just a 
> programmer and mathematician, but a poet as well.

I actually got teary-eyed the first time I finished Advent550. :-)
And I still have the original FORTRAN source code listing on a shelf.

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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: And you thought COBOL was readable?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 23:38:36
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On 09/02/09 21:42, Darren New wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> True. Sometimes people get lost on the ambition to write a sort of
>> interactive novel and forget about gameplay.
>
> Interestingly, the reason I posted that is I finally came up with an
> idea for a piece of interactive fiction to write.

	Settled on Inform?


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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: And you thought COBOL was readable?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 23:39:44
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On 09/02/09 21:35, nemesis wrote:
>> If anyone's coding a text adventure, they may also want to look at the
>> TADS authoring system - although Inform may still have the majority of
>> the market.
>
> Probably more to Warp's taste in its full object-oriented API and
> Java-like syntax.

	More to my taste, too, if I ever write one. I'm not fond of either Java 
or C++. However, I do like the OO'ness and it seems easier to get custom 
behavior - not sure I'll need that, though.

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: And you thought COBOL was readable?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 23:40:01
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > True.  Sometimes people get lost on the ambition to write a sort of
> > interactive novel and forget about gameplay.
>
> Interestingly, the reason I posted that is I finally came up with an idea
> for a piece of interactive fiction to write.

Great, man!  Let us know when it's ready! :)

> > Writing is about as good as you can get too, the guy is not just a
> > programmer and mathematician, but a poet as well.
>
> I actually got teary-eyed the first time I finished Advent550. :-)
> And I still have the original FORTRAN source code listing on a shelf.

Complete classic.  Pure cave crawl plus some puzzles...  no, never had the guts
to play it more than for historical curiosity.  It's still far more bearable
though than, say, King's Quest 1 with its primitive graphics.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: And you thought COBOL was readable?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 11:13:23
Message: <4a9fdd13$1@news.povray.org>
Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 09/02/09 21:42, Darren New wrote:
>> nemesis wrote:
>>> True. Sometimes people get lost on the ambition to write a sort of
>>> interactive novel and forget about gameplay.
>>
>> Interestingly, the reason I posted that is I finally came up with an
>> idea for a piece of interactive fiction to write.
> 
>     Settled on Inform?

Yeah.  Much cooler to play with than TADS. :-)  I just wish the C++ compiler 
I'm using spat out error messages as helpful as Inform. ;-)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: And you thought COBOL was readable?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 21:33:09
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Darren New wrote:
> Yeah.  Much cooler to play with than TADS. :-)  I just wish the C++ 
> compiler I'm using spat out error messages as helpful as Inform. ;-)

And, to combine two threads into one:

Poems that actually compile and run in Inform7...

http://nbhorvath.blogspot.com/2006/12/inform-7-code-poem-challenge.html



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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: And you thought COBOL was readable?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 21:40:00
Message: <web.4aa06fcb452927d423f4e7aa0@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Poems that actually compile and run in Inform7...
>
> http://nbhorvath.blogspot.com/2006/12/inform-7-code-poem-challenge.html

amazing.  Some years ago it was Perl, but this reads much better... :)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: And you thought COBOL was readable?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 21:51:01
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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Poems that actually compile and run in Inform7...
>>
>> http://nbhorvath.blogspot.com/2006/12/inform-7-code-poem-challenge.html
> 
> amazing.  Some years ago it was Perl, but this reads much better... :)

It's cool. It's actually using the game's parser to compile the "english" 
into something called Inform6, which is much like TADS, i.e., an 
OO/procedural syntax-heavy (relatively) language for adventure games. Which 
I thought was beyond awesome.  You can actually read all the rules for the 
stuff it understands, like north is opposite of south and lit objects in 
transparent containers shed light into the room.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: And you thought COBOL was readable?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 22:07:42
Message: <4aa0766e$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> It's cool. 

Hee heee!  Tabstops sizes are specified in points!

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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: And you thought COBOL was readable?
Date: 4 Sep 2009 00:00:35
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On 09/03/09 20:39, nemesis wrote:
> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom>  wrote:
>> Poems that actually compile and run in Inform7...
>>
>> http://nbhorvath.blogspot.com/2006/12/inform-7-code-poem-challenge.html
>
> amazing.  Some years ago it was Perl, but this reads much better... :)

	Doing it in Perl is still cooler. Inform's meant to be readable. Perl's 
meant to be unreadable.

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