Mike Raiford wrote:
> Why are certain forms of Christianity so scared of nation working 
> together cooperatively (i.e. a single world government)?

They think that the governments will all agree to outlaw Christianity in 
general, or their church in particular.

The fact that quite a few governments, even in recently history, have 
gone after Christians simply for being Christians, certainly adds fuel 
to the flames.

In any event, there are plenty of secular reasons to regard a one world 
government with alarm.

Regards,
John

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Darren New wrote:

> 
> ... after which, God used muscle power to bring down the tower, because 
> otherwise they might have reached his throne.

But, He also scattered their languages so they could no longer work 
together and communicate.

> When you actually follow through, most of the stories make no sense. 
> "God intervened to make them fail, because if he hadn't, they would have 
> failed."
> 

Sometimes, just reading the stories makes me wonder ... maybe God is the 
evil one ... I mean, he basically sent the Jews on a wild goose chase...  :)

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~Mike

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John VanSickle wrote:

> In any event, there are plenty of secular reasons to regard a one world 
> government with alarm.

Do you have some examples of this? Is this based on a fear that a single 
world government would become fascist, for example? Or is it a fear that 
individual cultures will be homogenized into a single conglomerate 
culture with no real identity?



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~Mike

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Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> John VanSickle wrote:

> > In any event, there are plenty of secular reasons to regard a one world 
> > government with alarm.

> Do you have some examples of this? Is this based on a fear that a single 
> world government would become fascist, for example? Or is it a fear that 
> individual cultures will be homogenized into a single conglomerate 
> culture with no real identity?

  I think the main reason is the same as why economic monopolies are bad.

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Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why are certain forms of Christianity so scared of nation working
> together cooperatively (i.e. a single world government)?
> --
> ~Mike

Speaking as one who is a non-Christian, but by no means an anti-Christian, I
have some doubts about whether or not the phrase "a single world government"
has, generally speaking, the same meaning as "nation(s) working together
cooperatively."

At a glance, it just seems to be "common sense" that the global nature of the
problems currently confronting humankind calls for an equally global system for
addressing them. If there does exist a plausible means organizing the world's
resources on a global scale for the betterment of the human race (or better
yet, all life) as a whole, we would clearly be fools not to avail ourselves of
it.

Whether or not such a thing IS plausible, however, is quite a serious question.
The "putting all your eggs in one basket" analogy may be a tad cliche, but I
believe it to be applicable.  It doesn't require one of the world's greatest
scholars in the field of history to notice that when we humans centralize
authority to avail ourselves of some of the obvious practical advantages of
doing so, things can (and often do) go horribly wrong.

Sure enough,there are(sadly)plenty of folks who tend to oppose anything and
everything they associate with "globalization" simply because they don't much
care for them thar ferriners. It's a tremendous oversimplification, however, to
imply that anyone with reservations about the possible consequences of
centralizing authority over human activity on a global scale is of that limited
frame of mind.*

Hopefully, we will be clever enough to find ways to develop global systems for
social, political and economic interaction that enable and facilitate
cooperative action without falling into the trap of creating a "world overseer"
in the process.  If not, perhaps the arthropods will have better luck in a few
billion years.

Best Regards,
Mike C.

* I wish to make clear that this statement addresses the discussion that tends
to take place on this topic generally.  I am most definitely NOT saying that
any particular person on this forum has implied such a thing.

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Warp wrote:
>   I think the main reason is the same as why economic monopolies are bad.

That was always my guess.

Plus, of course, it's unstable. Imagine a single world government taken over 
by a military coup. What would you think happens next?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
    back to version 1.0."
   "We've done that already. We call it 2.0."

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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> 
>>
>> ... after which, God used muscle power to bring down the tower, 
>> because otherwise they might have reached his throne.
> 
> But, He also scattered their languages so they could no longer work 
> together and communicate.
> 
>> When you actually follow through, most of the stories make no sense. 
>> "God intervened to make them fail, because if he hadn't, they would 
>> have failed."
>>
> 
> Sometimes, just reading the stories makes me wonder ... maybe God is the 
> evil one ... I mean, he basically sent the Jews on a wild goose 
> chase...  :)
> 
Yes, well, in "one" much earlier religion, Yehweh was one of three sons 
of the "true" creator, a war monger, and got his toys taken away, along 
with the other two sons, for all being too stupid to correctly run the 
kingdoms they where given by daddy. lol

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Patrick Elliott wrote:

> Yes, well, in "one" much earlier religion, Yehweh was one of three sons 
> of the "true" creator, a war monger, and got his toys taken away, along 
> with the other two sons, for all being too stupid to correctly run the 
> kingdoms they where given by daddy. lol

That's an interesting view...

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~Mike

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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
> 
>> Yes, well, in "one" much earlier religion, Yehweh was one of three 
>> sons of the "true" creator, a war monger, and got his toys taken away, 
>> along with the other two sons, for all being too stupid to correctly 
>> run the kingdoms they where given by daddy. lol
> 
> That's an interesting view...
> 
I found it, ironically, on a Jewish site, talking about the nature of 
the OT god, and whether or not the NT one is the "same" as that OT one. 
Their answer seemed to be "no".

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Not directly related but:

  Is it true that there are "closet atheists" in many parts of the US?
In other words, atheists who pretend to be believers because else they
would be discriminated against in the community they live in.

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                                                          - Warp

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