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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 15:23:48
Message: <4a3fda44$1@news.povray.org>
http://blog.jonasbandi.net/2009/06/ie-vs-firefox-microsoft-has-to-be.html

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 16:02:28
Message: <4a3fe354@news.povray.org>
Btw, why are some websites choosing to use proprietary Microsoft
technology, namely silverlight? Didn't the world learn anything from
the IE-only-webpages fiasco?

  The most obnoxious infringer is the Webby Awards website:
http://www.webbyawards.com/

  According to them, "the Webby Awards is the leading international
award honoring excellence on the Internet. Established in 1996 during
the Web's infancy, the Webbys are presented by The International
Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences, a 550-member body of leading Web
experts, business figures, luminaries, visionaries and creative
celebrities."

  If they are honoring excellence on the internet, and the internet ought
to be rather system-agnostic, why are they so tied up with proprietary
Microsoft technology? Why is some of their content only available to
people using a certain OS? Haven't they learned anything from the IE
fiasco? Making webpages for one single software is *not* the way to go.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 16:05:37
Message: <4a3fe411@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   Btw, why are some websites choosing to use proprietary Microsoft
> technology, namely silverlight? Didn't the world learn anything from
> the IE-only-webpages fiasco?

Why SilverLight? Why Flash? Why JavaFX?

Because it looks slick, and you can't do it using only W3C standards.

>   According to them, "the Webby Awards is the leading international
> award honoring excellence on the Internet."
> 
> Why is some of their content only available to people using a certain OS?

FAIL.

I'm sorry, anybody who claims to be "honoring excellence" while 
committing an atrocity like this is clearly not worth listening to.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 16:10:33
Message: <4a3fe539$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> namely silverlight? 

Doesn't Moonlight work?

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 16:16:52
Message: <4a3fe6b4$1@news.povray.org>
>> namely silverlight? 
> 
> Doesn't Moonlight work?

Is anybody else struck by the humour of this?

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 16:23:47
Message: <4A3FE854.4010305@hotmail.com>
On 22-6-2009 22:16, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> namely silverlight? 
>>
>> Doesn't Moonlight work?
> 
> Is anybody else struck by the humour of this?
> 
Darren?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 16:30:14
Message: <4a3fe9d6@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > namely silverlight? 

> Doesn't Moonlight work?

  At least it drags behind, not supporting the newer versions of silverlight.
And it's linux-only. (Besides, using proprietary technology tied to one
single company, namely Novell, many Linux users are not very eager to use it.)

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From: somebody
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 18:35:44
Message: <4a400740$1@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:4a3fe354@news.povray.org...

>   Btw, why are some websites choosing to use proprietary Microsoft
> technology, namely silverlight? Didn't the world learn anything from
> the IE-only-webpages fiasco?
>
>   The most obnoxious infringer is the Webby Awards website:
> http://www.webbyawards.com/
>
>   According to them, "the Webby Awards is the leading international
> award honoring excellence on the Internet. Established in 1996 during
> the Web's infancy, the Webbys are presented by The International
> Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences, a 550-member body of leading Web
> experts, business figures, luminaries, visionaries and creative
> celebrities."
>
>   If they are honoring excellence on the internet, and the internet ought
> to be rather system-agnostic, why are they so tied up with proprietary
> Microsoft technology? Why is some of their content only available to
> people using a certain OS? Haven't they learned anything from the IE
> fiasco? Making webpages for one single software is *not* the way to go.

How is Silverlight fundamentally different from Flash or Java? They are all
proprietary but they run on multiple platforms (to varying degrees of
implementation). I think it's relatively early for chosing Silverlight over,
say, Flash at this point, but without early adopters or risk takers, nothing
new would be adopted. Maybe if makers of non-proprietary standards were not
so stuck up and conservative, they could anticipate or even shape new
trends. Why don't we have a practical non-proprietary 2D vector, 3D,
mathamatical expression, printable document, ...etc standards? The
bureacracy of non-proprietary standards failed to deliver what the users
wanted, but instead fell in love with impractical but academic standards
following the one bloated solution for every problem mantra. Enter vendors
of proprietary software to fill the void.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 19:34:09
Message: <4a4014f1$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   At least it drags behind, not supporting the newer versions of silverlight.

Fair, but that's true of most everything on the web. :-)

> And it's linux-only. 

So we're missing MacOS?  I ask only because I haven't really been following 
it, except that I heard someone was trying to clone silverlight onto Linux.

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   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 23 Jun 2009 11:59:31
Message: <4a40fbe3@news.povray.org>
somebody <x### [at] ycom> wrote:
> How is Silverlight fundamentally different from Flash or Java?

  Did I say they should use Flash or Java instead?

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