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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 16:10:33
Message: <4a3fe539$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> namely silverlight? 

Doesn't Moonlight work?

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 16:16:52
Message: <4a3fe6b4$1@news.povray.org>
>> namely silverlight? 
> 
> Doesn't Moonlight work?

Is anybody else struck by the humour of this?

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 16:23:47
Message: <4A3FE854.4010305@hotmail.com>
On 22-6-2009 22:16, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> namely silverlight? 
>>
>> Doesn't Moonlight work?
> 
> Is anybody else struck by the humour of this?
> 
Darren?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 16:30:14
Message: <4a3fe9d6@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > namely silverlight? 

> Doesn't Moonlight work?

  At least it drags behind, not supporting the newer versions of silverlight.
And it's linux-only. (Besides, using proprietary technology tied to one
single company, namely Novell, many Linux users are not very eager to use it.)

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From: somebody
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 18:35:44
Message: <4a400740$1@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:4a3fe354@news.povray.org...

>   Btw, why are some websites choosing to use proprietary Microsoft
> technology, namely silverlight? Didn't the world learn anything from
> the IE-only-webpages fiasco?
>
>   The most obnoxious infringer is the Webby Awards website:
> http://www.webbyawards.com/
>
>   According to them, "the Webby Awards is the leading international
> award honoring excellence on the Internet. Established in 1996 during
> the Web's infancy, the Webbys are presented by The International
> Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences, a 550-member body of leading Web
> experts, business figures, luminaries, visionaries and creative
> celebrities."
>
>   If they are honoring excellence on the internet, and the internet ought
> to be rather system-agnostic, why are they so tied up with proprietary
> Microsoft technology? Why is some of their content only available to
> people using a certain OS? Haven't they learned anything from the IE
> fiasco? Making webpages for one single software is *not* the way to go.

How is Silverlight fundamentally different from Flash or Java? They are all
proprietary but they run on multiple platforms (to varying degrees of
implementation). I think it's relatively early for chosing Silverlight over,
say, Flash at this point, but without early adopters or risk takers, nothing
new would be adopted. Maybe if makers of non-proprietary standards were not
so stuck up and conservative, they could anticipate or even shape new
trends. Why don't we have a practical non-proprietary 2D vector, 3D,
mathamatical expression, printable document, ...etc standards? The
bureacracy of non-proprietary standards failed to deliver what the users
wanted, but instead fell in love with impractical but academic standards
following the one bloated solution for every problem mantra. Enter vendors
of proprietary software to fill the void.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 22 Jun 2009 19:34:09
Message: <4a4014f1$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   At least it drags behind, not supporting the newer versions of silverlight.

Fair, but that's true of most everything on the web. :-)

> And it's linux-only. 

So we're missing MacOS?  I ask only because I haven't really been following 
it, except that I heard someone was trying to clone silverlight onto Linux.

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   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 23 Jun 2009 11:59:31
Message: <4a40fbe3@news.povray.org>
somebody <x### [at] ycom> wrote:
> How is Silverlight fundamentally different from Flash or Java?

  Did I say they should use Flash or Java instead?

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 23 Jun 2009 16:43:53
Message: <4a413e89$1@news.povray.org>
somebody wrote:

> new would be adopted. Maybe if makers of non-proprietary standards were not
> so stuck up and conservative, they could anticipate or even shape new
> trends. Why don't we have a practical non-proprietary 2D vector, 3D,
> mathamatical expression, printable document, ...etc standards? The
> bureacracy of non-proprietary standards failed to deliver what the users
> wanted, but instead fell in love with impractical but academic standards
> following the one bloated solution for every problem mantra. Enter vendors
> of proprietary software to fill the void.

What I'd love to see is a non-proprietary standard for rich, interactive 
web applications, like flash, that had a full-featured authoring package 
backing them. If you make it easy for content creators to create content 
in your format, then you'll have content in that format.

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~Mike


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 23 Jun 2009 17:12:22
Message: <4a414536$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> What I'd love to see is a non-proprietary standard for rich, interactive 
> web applications, like flash, that had a full-featured authoring package 
> backing them. If you make it easy for content creators to create content 
> in your format, then you'll have content in that format.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_5

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 23 Jun 2009 18:28:05
Message: <4a4156f5$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> What I'd love to see is a non-proprietary standard for rich, interactive 
> web applications, like flash, that had a full-featured authoring package 
> backing them. 

And why would someone create such a thing?

The only group I can see doing something like that would be a place like 
google, where their complement is powerful web browsers and they would 
prefer such a thing get implemented even if they don't implement it.

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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