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From: scott
Subject: Re: False "minimum system requirements" in modern games
Date: 15 Jun 2009 03:54:58
Message: <4a35fe52@news.povray.org>
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>> and, well, some people would find it completely unnaceptable by today's
>> standards to play a FPS in 20 FPS (pun intended). The spoiled brats say
>> it's impossible to hit enemies with a stuttering frame rate. Me? I've
>> blasted my way both on the original SNES Star Fox in its glorious 15 FPS
>> as well as in Goldeneye on N64 at 20 FPS, I'm ok with that...
I don't play FPS games much, but the ones I have played I find much easier
with *minimum* frame rates of 30+. There's no point in having a nice smooth
60 FPS as you walk around, only for it to drop to 15 when 5 enemies start
shooting at you.
I play racing sims most of the time, and there I think having a high frame
rate (like 30+) is even more important, as accurately controlling your
vehicle based on the visual feedback is the main part of the "game". Again,
having a nice smooth 60 FPS as you drive around is useless if it drops to 15
when a few other cars get very close to you.
> I don't call myself spoiled, but anything under 45 gives me a severe
> headache, and even 60 gives me a light one after about an hour.
My LCD only redraws at 60 FPS so I don't think I would notice anything
higher. My old CRT used to go up to 120 Hz (at a low resolution) and if you
ran a game or animation at 120 Hz it really did look smoother than 60 Hz.
> Although, that's only for games. For some reason, movies & TV don't have
> the same effect on me.
Movies and TV generally have motion blur in each frame, so it's not so
"stuttery" as a game at low frame rate.
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: False "minimum system requirements" in modern games
Date: 15 Jun 2009 11:52:32
Message: <4a366e40$1@news.povray.org>
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Chambers wrote:
> I don't call myself spoiled, but anything under 45 gives me a severe
> headache, and even 60 gives me a light one after about an hour.
Sounds like you have artificial lighting going on, or you're sitting in an
entirely dark room?
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Insanity is a small city on the western
border of the State of Mind.
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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: False "minimum system requirements" in modern games
Date: 15 Jun 2009 21:45:26
Message: <4a36f936@news.povray.org>
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Darren New wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>> I don't call myself spoiled, but anything under 45 gives me a severe
>> headache, and even 60 gives me a light one after about an hour.
>
> Sounds like you have artificial lighting going on, or you're sitting in
> an entirely dark room?
I certainly use a fair amount of artificial lighting. Now that you
mention it, when I let the sun in things seem to go better for me...
I thought I was just getting old.
--
Chambers
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: False "minimum system requirements" in modern games
Date: 15 Jun 2009 22:06:44
Message: <4a36fe34$1@news.povray.org>
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Chambers wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Chambers wrote:
>>> I don't call myself spoiled, but anything under 45 gives me a severe
>>> headache, and even 60 gives me a light one after about an hour.
>>
>> Sounds like you have artificial lighting going on, or you're sitting
>> in an entirely dark room?
>
> I certainly use a fair amount of artificial lighting.
Think "beat frequencies." And yes, I've noticed it too as I've gotten older.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Insanity is a small city on the western
border of the State of Mind.
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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: False "minimum system requirements" in modern games
Date: 15 Jun 2009 22:25:27
Message: <4a370297$1@news.povray.org>
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Darren New wrote:
> Think "beat frequencies." And yes, I've noticed it too as I've gotten
> older.
I assume it has to do with the combination of lights pulsing (don't
flourescents flicker?) and the refresh of the screen?
--
Chambers
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: False "minimum system requirements" in modern games
Date: 15 Jun 2009 23:32:00
Message: <4a371230$1@news.povray.org>
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Chambers wrote:
> I assume it has to do with the combination of lights pulsing (don't
> flourescents flicker?) and the refresh of the screen?
That can be a problem, yes. Especially with fluorescents, which actually
aren't on all the time.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Insanity is a small city on the western
border of the State of Mind.
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From: scott
Subject: Re: False "minimum system requirements" in modern games
Date: 22 Jun 2009 05:17:33
Message: <4a3f4c2d$1@news.povray.org>
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> That can be a problem, yes. Especially with fluorescents, which actually
> aren't on all the time.
And CRTs, which aren't on all the time either :-)
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