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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> I don't really know. Lots of books (e.g. novels) have a notice inside
> prohibiting the owner from reproducing, and even selling
In the US, we have the "first sale" doctrine. It says that if I buy a copy
of a copyrighted work, it's mine to do with as I please. Publishers were
trying to make it illegal to sell used books here, and the courts said
"Nope, that's not copying. The buyer owns the copy. You don't get to control
what happens after."
So that's kind of where I'm coming from.
I should probably take a class to brush up on this stuff, tho, since the
laws have changed so much here since I learned about it.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: iPod / Music Industry / J-pop / Gripe!
Date: 5 Jun 2009 22:31:48
Message: <4a29d514@news.povray.org>
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On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:06:40 -0500, Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> I always wondered what would happen if a black man sued some group like
>> the KKK for not hiring him as a receptionist or some such. Would that
>> be "fair"?
>
> 1. It's fairly easy to get around such requirements, if need be.
>
> 2. I doubt the KKK is officially an employer, so it doesn't apply.
Well, they probably are considered some sort of non-profit organization
(IIRC, they are considered a fraternal organization with officers), but I
think they would be required by law to have an employer ID number if they
paid their officers a salary.
Jim
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Darren New wrote:
> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>> I don't really know. Lots of books (e.g. novels) have a notice inside
>> prohibiting the owner from reproducing, and even selling
>
> In the US, we have the "first sale" doctrine. It says that if I buy a
> copy of a copyrighted work, it's mine to do with as I please. Publishers
> were trying to make it illegal to sell used books here, and the courts
> said "Nope, that's not copying. The buyer owns the copy. You don't get
> to control what happens after."
Perhaps that's why I seem to remember reading it as a kid (or in old
novels) and perhaps not these days.
--
"Once again, Mr. Cutlet fulfilled the sacred oath of the public
educator: To take an inherently fun activity, and sap it of every ounce
of pleasure."
-- Kevin Arnold in "Wonder Years".
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>>>>>>mue### [at] nawaz org<<<<<<
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Here we've even had lawsuits where men sued because they couldn't get hired
> to work at a topless restaurant. (I.e., a "hooters" type place.)
Well, there everyone sues everyone else for every possible reason, just
to see if they can milk some money from them.
--
- Warp
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Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
> And then there are export restrictions.
But in this case it would be an US company refusing to sell a US citizen.
(Ok, I don't know if the original poster is an US citizen, but the situation
can perfectly well happen to one.) Nothing to export here.
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- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Here we've even had lawsuits where men sued because they couldn't get hired
>> to work at a topless restaurant. (I.e., a "hooters" type place.)
>
> Well, there everyone sues everyone else for every possible reason, just
> to see if they can milk some money from them.
Yes, it was a pretty silly lawsuit.
Lawyers: America's great untapped export market.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 10:50:17 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Here we've even had lawsuits where men sued because they couldn't get
>> hired to work at a topless restaurant. (I.e., a "hooters" type place.)
>
> Well, there everyone sues everyone else for every possible reason,
> just
> to see if they can milk some money from them.
Well, no, not *everyone*. I haven't sued anyone. So there's a
counterexample to disprove your assertion. ;-)
Jim
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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: iPod / Music Industry / J-pop / Gripe!
Date: 6 Jun 2009 16:06:40
Message: <4a2acc50@news.povray.org>
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Well, no, not *everyone*. I haven't sued anyone. So there's a
Yet.
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On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:06:40 -0500, Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Well, no, not *everyone*. I haven't sued anyone. So there's a
>
> Yet.
True, I was actually going to say "yet", but felt it diluted the point I
was trying to make.
Which is this: Many, many people live a full lifetime in the US and
don't sue anyone. My grandfather never sued anyone (to my knowledge) and
lived a full life. And he's very *very* unlikely to do so now.
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Which is this: Many, many people live a full lifetime in the US and
> don't sue anyone. My grandfather never sued anyone (to my knowledge) and
> lived a full life. And he's very *very* unlikely to do so now.
I agree with your bigger point. A more relevant statistic would be how
many people go through their whole lives without _being_ sued.
--
Don't take life so seriously. It won't last.
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