The beginning is pretty funny, and an easy read for people unfamiliar with 
the technology of the topic.

http://www.debiantutorials.org/a-drm-dissertation-off-topic-230

I'm glad someone is saying this stuff. :-)

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Darren New escreveu:
> The beginning is pretty funny, and an easy read for people unfamiliar 
> with the technology of the topic.
> 
> http://www.debiantutorials.org/a-drm-dissertation-off-topic-230
> 
> I'm glad someone is saying this stuff. :-)

Pretty old.  I read it before.  I like the greetings. :)

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nemesis wrote:
> Pretty old.  

So it is. Funny how relevant it still is after five years. :-)


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Darren New escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Pretty old.  
> 
> So it is. Funny how relevant it still is after five years. :-)

Seems like Microsoft played deaf. :P

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nemesis wrote:

> Seems like Microsoft played deaf. :P

Selective deafness is a common trait.

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Darren New wrote:

> http://www.debiantutorials.org/a-drm-dissertation-off-topic-230

"Congress needed a fix. Here's what they came up with: anyone who paid a 
music publisher two cents would have the right to make one piano roll of 
any song that publisher published. The publisher couldn't say no, and no 
one had to hire a lawyer at $200 an hour to argue about whether the 
payment should be two cents or a nickel."

Really? That's pretty interesting. Pitty it's not still the case today...

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Invisible wrote:
> Really? That's pretty interesting. Pitty it's not still the case today...

It kind of is, for radios at least. There was a big thing going on where 
they wanted to charge web listeners more than broadcast radio stations.

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On 19-5-2009 19:10, Darren New wrote:
> The beginning is pretty funny, and an easy read for people unfamiliar 
> with the technology of the topic.
> 
> http://www.debiantutorials.org/a-drm-dissertation-off-topic-230
> 
> I'm glad someone is saying this stuff. :-)
> 
Thanks, I hadn't read it before. I think one of his points could be 
reworded as: 'The record companies are a bigger problem to the artist 
than the illegal copying.' Interesting though.

Yesterday I watched the Kate Bush christmas special that was broadcast 
on BBC4 a couple of days ago. I taped it because they aired it on 
2.30am, (which is normally not a problem, but when I went to bed at 
24.00 I was already awake for 34 hours, so another 3 1/2 was not an 
option). I did that on VHS so I am probably safe in that respect.

Anyway, I realized that at one point I had been considering buying her 
entire work in boxed CD form. What stopped me was that it was rather 
expensive and I already own some of her work on CD and most of the rest 
on vinyl. More importantly in the light of this essay: I realized that 
if most of what I paid would go to Kate I might still do it, even if I 
had paid for the copyrights before. Knowing that she probably gets 1 or 
2 pound per sold item and the rest is for the company is so unfair (IMO) 
that I won't buy. In general for me the reason not to rebuy anything on 
CD that I own on vinyl is how the record companies use the 'poor artist' 
as an excuse to make money. The artists suffer directly from that 
attitude, I know. I have been wondering if there is a more direct way to 
support artist without paying a multiple of it to the record companies.

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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Darren New wrote:

> > http://www.debiantutorials.org/a-drm-dissertation-off-topic-230

> "Congress needed a fix. Here's what they came up with: anyone who paid a 
> music publisher two cents would have the right to make one piano roll of 
> any song that publisher published. The publisher couldn't say no, and no 
> one had to hire a lawyer at $200 an hour to argue about whether the 
> payment should be two cents or a nickel."

> Really? That's pretty interesting. Pitty it's not still the case today...

  The music industry is really, really greedy.

  Take, for example, the immensely popular Guitar Hero series of games.
The games got rights for using the songs for a relatively small price.
However, the games were such a hit that the sales of the songs used in
them sky-rocketed. For example, one of the most popular songs of the
whole series, Through The Fire And Flames by Dragonforce, saw an incredible
boost in sales soon after the Guitar Hero game which contained it was
released. It would be rather safe to say that without the game this song
in question would probably have been rather unknown, but thanks to the game
it's one of the best-known songs in recent history, and it can be seen in
the sales.

  Basically the Guitar Hero games are free publicity for the featured songs.
In fact, it's not even free publicity: The music industry gets money for
having their songs advertised like this in the games, and they are getting
huge profits from it.

  So what does the music industry do? They want *more money* from the
game creators.

  You see, their logic is: Since the games sell so well, the game industry
should get a piece of the cake, so they want more money. The fact that the
games act as free publicity and are sky-rocketing sales is completely
incosecuential to them. They still want more, more, more money.

  Of course the game creators have the opposite view: They think (and IMO
rather rightly) that it's the game industry who should pey *them* to include
the songs in the games, because it's publicity. It's the product owner who
should pay the advertisement company, not the other way around.

  But of couse, why shouldn't the music industry want more money from
everywhere?

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Warp escreveu:
>   Take, for example, the immensely popular Guitar Hero series of games.
> The games got rights for using the songs for a relatively small price.
> However, the games were such a hit that the sales of the songs used in
> them sky-rocketed. For example, one of the most popular songs of the
> whole series, Through The Fire And Flames by Dragonforce, saw an incredible
> boost in sales soon after the Guitar Hero game which contained it was
> released. It would be rather safe to say that without the game this song
> in question would probably have been rather unknown, but thanks to the game
> it's one of the best-known songs in recent history, and it can be seen in
> the sales.

I'm eagerly waiting for Piano Hero -- with "songs" by Chopin, Liszt, 
Beethoven and company.

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