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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: 13 scientific questions without an answer so far
Date: 29 Apr 2009 02:18:10
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Warp wrote:
> nemesis <nam### [at] gmail com> wrote:
>>
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18524911.600-13-things-that-do-not-make-sense.html
>
> Btw, there's a very common misconception about the Theory of Relativity,
> even among people who should know better.
>
> The ToR does *not* prohibit the distance between two points growing
> faster than c. On the contrary, it actually *predicts* (as a consequence
> of the GR equations) that it's possible.
>
> What it does prohibit is anything *travelling* from one point to another
> faster than c, which is a subtly (but drastically) different thing.
It doesn't matter as long as it doesn't prohibit the distance between
two points *shrinking* faster than c. ;)
Warp Drive, her we go! :D
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 13 scientific questions without an answer so far
Date: 29 Apr 2009 11:16:14
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Warp wrote:
> (I suppose "dilluting makes the effect reverse" makes some kind of
> sense... if you have the IQ of a 2-year-old, that is. I suppose the logic
> might go something like: When you take the harmful element away by
> dilluting, likewise the harmful *effect* goes away, and it takes away
> the harmful effect in anything that it touches.)
No, it's supposedly more like the vaccine mechanism. By taking the ghost of
the poison, your body overreacts and cures whatever has the same symptoms as
the poison.
I only had it work once, and that's after all the other poison-ivy remedies
failed to remedy. Not that I attribute it to the homeopathy, but I had
little to lose but the $5 for the sugar pills. :-)
What I want to know is why people don't dilute placebos, then poison people
with it. The perfect murder weapon!
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 13 scientific questions without an answer so far
Date: 29 Apr 2009 11:20:21
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nemesis wrote:
> Warp Drive, her we go! :D
I read an article recently where theoretical physicists were arguing over
whether *if* you made a bubble of flat space with a vehicle inside, and you
moved it by squashing the space in front and stretching the space behind,
whether the radiation caused would disrupt the interface between the two,
and whether you could make two interfaces to prevent that problem...
So, yes, real scientists really are working on a real warp drive, in some
sense. :-)
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 13 scientific questions without an answer so far
Date: 29 Apr 2009 12:15:06
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > (I suppose "dilluting makes the effect reverse" makes some kind of
> > sense... if you have the IQ of a 2-year-old, that is. I suppose the logic
> > might go something like: When you take the harmful element away by
> > dilluting, likewise the harmful *effect* goes away, and it takes away
> > the harmful effect in anything that it touches.)
> No, it's supposedly more like the vaccine mechanism. By taking the ghost of
> the poison, your body overreacts and cures whatever has the same symptoms as
> the poison.
I bet that's just an explanation they came up with afterwards. The
2yo-level explanation sounds more plausible. ;)
> What I want to know is why people don't dilute placebos, then poison people
> with it. The perfect murder weapon!
Since homeopathic medicine is 100% natural, it can only have positive
effects, never negative, I suppose. (After all, synthetic = bad, natural =
good.)
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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: 13 scientific questions without an answer so far
Date: 29 Apr 2009 12:33:09
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Darren New escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Warp Drive, her we go! :D
>
> I read an article recently where theoretical physicists were arguing
> over whether *if* you made a bubble of flat space with a vehicle inside,
> and you moved it by squashing the space in front and stretching the
> space behind, whether the radiation caused would disrupt the interface
> between the two, and whether you could make two interfaces to prevent
> that problem...
>
> So, yes, real scientists really are working on a real warp drive, in
> some sense. :-)
I heard of it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: 13 scientific questions without an answer so far
Date: 29 Apr 2009 12:52:59
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nemesis escreveu:
> Darren New escreveu:
>> nemesis wrote:
>>> Warp Drive, her we go! :D
>>
>> I read an article recently where theoretical physicists were arguing
>> over whether *if* you made a bubble of flat space with a vehicle
>> inside, and you moved it by squashing the space in front and
>> stretching the space behind, whether the radiation caused would
>> disrupt the interface between the two, and whether you could make two
>> interfaces to prevent that problem...
>>
>> So, yes, real scientists really are working on a real warp drive, in
>> some sense. :-)
>
> I heard of it!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
OTOH, some annoying skeptical just had to destroy the dream:
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9702026
bummer! :P
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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: 13 scientific questions without an answer so far
Date: 29 Apr 2009 18:07:12
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Warp wrote:
> Since homeopathic medicine is 100% natural, it can only have positive
> effects, never negative, I suppose. (After all, synthetic = bad, natural =
> good.)
>
<--- looks up the many cases of people dying from taking "natural"
substances, including supplements, then looks up all the various cases
where China or the like sold/continue to sell "natural" herbs that, due
to a) poor packaging requirements and b) no testing of "dietary aids",
have turned up with 3-4 times the lethal dose of actual pharmaceuticals
in them.
Uh.. Don't think so.. lol
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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: 13 scientific questions without an answer so far
Date: 29 Apr 2009 19:43:05
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nemesis wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>
> Warp Drive, her we go! :D
First, I believe Warp is a he.
Second, it's rude to give orders.
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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: 13 scientific questions without an answer so far
Date: 29 Apr 2009 22:03:25
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Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> Since homeopathic medicine is 100% natural, it can only have positive
>> effects, never negative, I suppose. (After all, synthetic = bad,
>> natural =
>> good.)
>>
> <--- looks up the many cases of people dying from taking "natural"
> substances, including supplements, then looks up all the various cases
> where China or the like sold/continue to sell "natural" herbs that, due
> to a) poor packaging requirements and b) no testing of "dietary aids",
> have turned up with 3-4 times the lethal dose of actual pharmaceuticals
> in them.
>
> Uh.. Don't think so.. lol
Warp forgot to turn on the neon sarcasm sign.
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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: 13 scientific questions without an answer so far
Date: 29 Apr 2009 22:04:27
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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>
>> Warp Drive, her we go! :D
>
> First, I believe Warp is a he.
>
> Second, it's rude to give orders.
I knew that typo would get me in trouble. ;)
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