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On 18-4-2009 18:23, Stephen wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:05:51 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmail com> wrote:
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>> I disagree. You may speak the Queen's English at home or at work, just
>> as I do speak Dutch at home. Here in this newsgroup we all speak
>> International English. No matter if your first language is another
>> variant of English or not that is for everyone of us the second or third
>> language.
>>
>
> Of course you disagree but make it work. :P
>
>>> Each country that has its own variation of English will
>>> naturally speak and write it. I speak and write Stephen's English and I often
>>> have a hard time communicating.
>>> Sae nae mair fechtin
>> Does that translate to: So no more fighting?
>
> Aye/Yes
Then the Nac Mac Feegle have done their job.
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On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:24:09 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
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>What is a bampot
A headcase.
>and who is this Govan you are speaking of?
I forgot you are a liberal Dutchman :)
LOL
>Oh, nevermind.
But I do mind. ;)
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Regards
Stephen
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On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:28:51 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>>> Sae nae mair fechtin
>>> Does that translate to: So no more fighting?
>>
>> Aye/Yes
>
>Then the Nac Mac Feegle have done their job.
Those wee scunners?
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Regards
Stephen
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Stephen <mcavoysAT@aoldotcom> wrote:
> > No, I didn't call him stupid. I asked him if he would have preferred me
> >to call him stupid instead of assuming he was nitpicking on purpose.
> Even so that is still offensive it is as good as calling him stupid.
I'm just tired of people who jump with their "don't you DARE to <blaa blaa>"
at every opportunity, like I had written the greatest of insults.
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> a lot, and the meaning has always been approximately "a first-time user
> (who may or may not be fluent with computers in general) can more or less
> easily start using the program from the visual clues only, without having
> to read tutorials or help text".
That would seem to be Jim's 3c definition.
It would seem notepad is as "intuitive" (with arrow keys, mouse clicks to
position the cursor, etc) as any other Windows program, while neither emacs
nor vi can be driven at all without learning how to run them.
> You say that "intuitive" does not mean that, and that "instinctive" is
> the more correct word. Do you have any actual concrete reference to this?
> Some actual examples where "intuitive" is *not* being used in the way I
> described above, and instead "instinctive" is?
I think instinctive is a particular kind of intuitive. Arrows are
instinctive but not intuitive. Eye-tracking software would be an instinctive
interface.
Just MHO.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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Warp wrote:
> He (as well as Darren) deliberately chose to ignore what I was
> saying and instead chose to nitpick about why "that's exactly what you do
> with vi as well", completely ignoring the differences I was talking about.
I was responding to what you actually wrote, rather than what you might have
thought you intended to mean. You said you don't start up vi, edit a file,
then save and quit. That's just how vi works. It's *not* how every editor
works. (For example, it's not how visual studio's editor works.) Since you'd
already said you weren't familiar with vi, I thought perhaps you didn't know
it could work exactly the way you described.
I wasn't ignoring you. I was correcting what seemed to be a lack of
knowledge but that was actually apparently a lack of mind-reading. :-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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Stephen wrote:
> want subtitles on Scottish TV programmes.)
http://vodpod.com/watch/557475-iraq-terrorist-does-not-like-subtitles
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> I was responding to what you actually wrote, rather than what you might have
> thought you intended to mean. You said you don't start up vi, edit a file,
> then save and quit. That's just how vi works.
Then you must be using a different version of vi than I do.
I start vi with eg. a text file, try to start editing it and... weird
things happen. Nothing happens, it beeps or does weird things.
I think I explained that in parentheses in my post.
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- Warp
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Darren New wrote:
> It would seem notepad is as "intuitive" (with arrow keys, mouse clicks
> to position the cursor, etc) as any other Windows program, while neither
> emacs nor vi can be driven at all without learning how to run them.
20-years vi hacker comes in touch with notepad for the first time:
iWhat the crap is this thing?
:wq
iCrap! How do I kill this process??!!
ZZ
:q!!!
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On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 05:10:30 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:39:37 -0400, Warp wrote:
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>> > Jim are *deliberately*
>
>> Don't you *dare* tell me that I'm deliberately misunderstanding you.
>> You have no idea what my *deliberate* processes are.
>
> Fine, you are not doing it deliberately. You are misunderstanding what
> I wrote because you are stupid?
>
> Is that better?
Hardly.
It's because I have a different perspective. Quite frankly if you're
going to continue to insult and presume to tell me what I mean when I
write, then I shall just plonk you into my twit filter and be done with
you.
Jim
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