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On 5-4-2009 18:03, Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>
>>> The only unanswered question is why anyone would *want* to run linux
>>> from windows.
>
>> Typically because you want to quickly do something that's trivial under
>> Linux, and you don't fancy spending 4 weeks searching for an equivilent
>> Windows tool to do the same thing.
>
> Don't you mean equivalent?
>
Oh, come on Warp, you should have known by now that this is the
preferred way of spelling in his spell chicker.
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Warp wrote:
> Anyways, my comment had a hint of "why would anyone want to run Windows
> in the first place?"
Maybe to do with the vast amount of software that only runs with Windows?
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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nemesis wrote:
> OTOH, it's tempting to get this one to work, might it be not a april fool's
> prank... :)
I get a meaningless error message for colinux-daemon --install-driver
so it isn't working for me. I'll have to try it on a non-emulated 32-bit CPU
before giving up entirely.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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> (E.g., you try finding a tool that can compute the MD5 sums of all the
> files in a given folder and write them into a text file.
Umm I typed into google "md5 checksum windows", the 2nd result looked
promising so I clicked it, and it seems to offer a free command-line tool
that does exactly what you want. It took like 10 seconds, Linux takes
longer than that to boot.
> Under Windows... well, there's a CLI tool that will compute the MD5 sum
> for *one* file, but you try scripting it to process several...)
If you have ever done any windows scripting it should be a piece of cake,
this is pretty standard stuff for dealing with files in scripts:
Set FSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set Folder = FSO.GetFolder("folder name")
Set Files = Folder.Files
For Each File in Files
do something with File.Name here
Next
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>> (E.g., you try finding a tool that can compute the MD5 sums of all the
>> files in a given folder and write them into a text file.
>
> Umm I typed into google "md5 checksum windows", the 2nd result looked
> promising so I clicked it, and it seems to offer a free command-line
> tool that does exactly what you want. It took like 10 seconds, Linux
> takes longer than that to boot.
Except that the Linux MD5 tool can automatically compute the MD5 sum of
multiple files. I have only found one tool for Windows that can do this,
and it was buggy as hell. (Kept printing garbage characters to stdout,
got confused by certain pathnames, etc.)
>> Under Windows... well, there's a CLI tool that will compute the MD5
>> sum for *one* file, but you try scripting it to process several...)
>
> If you have ever done any windows scripting it should be a piece of
> cake, this is pretty standard stuff for dealing with files in scripts:
>
> Set FSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
> Set Folder = FSO.GetFolder("folder name")
> Set Files = Folder.Files
> For Each File in Files
> do something with File.Name here
> Next
What the hell language is *that*?!
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> Except that the Linux MD5 tool can automatically compute the MD5 sum of
> multiple files. I have only found one tool for Windows that can do this,
> and it was buggy as hell. (Kept printing garbage characters to stdout, got
> confused by certain pathnames, etc.)
The one I found seemed to offer that too.
http://www.fastsum.com/support/user%20manual.php
>> Set FSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>> Set Folder = FSO.GetFolder("folder name")
>> Set Files = Folder.Files
>> For Each File in Files
>> do something with File.Name here
>> Next
>
> What the hell language is *that*?!
VBscript, it's what most people use to write scripts on windows, isn't it?
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/topics/beginner/firststeps.mspx
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>> Except that the Linux MD5 tool can automatically compute the MD5 sum
>> of multiple files. I have only found one tool for Windows that can do
>> this, and it was buggy as hell. (Kept printing garbage characters to
>> stdout, got confused by certain pathnames, etc.)
>
> The one I found seemed to offer that too.
What, wildcards or bugginess? :-}
>> What the hell language is *that*?!
>
> VBscript, it's what most people use to write scripts on windows, isn't it?
Actually I just write DOS scripts. If I need anything more complex, I
write Haskell.
As a matter of fact, I wrote an MD5 program in Haskell. But it turns out
not to be very fast...
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> Actually I just write DOS scripts. If I need anything more complex, I
> write Haskell.
There's always this: :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell
> As a matter of fact, I wrote an MD5 program in Haskell. But it turns out
> not to be very fast...
Hehe, not surprising.
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scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> If you have ever done any windows scripting it should be a piece of cake,
That seems to be a problem with Windows: It simply doesn't invite you
to do things by scripting.
I have been a regular Windows user for over 10 years, yet I don't have
the slightest idea about vbscripts nor even how you could even run them.
Can you run them directly? Do you need some kind of interpreter for it?
Does Windows support them by default, or do you need to install something?
I really don't have the slightest idea. I don't even know where to start.
I have also been a regular Unix user for over 10 years, and I'm somewhat
fluent in shell scripting. I'm in fact so used to it, that I find a terminal
emulator much more comfortable for browsing and handling files than a
graphical file browser (even though all linux distros have both).
I can't say which system I have used more overall, but I think it's
rather telling that in one system I'm pretty fluent with its scripting,
while in the other I don't have the faintest idea where to even start
looking. There is just some fundamental difference in these two systems
which causes different natural way of thinking.
--
- Warp
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>> Actually I just write DOS scripts. If I need anything more complex, I
>> write Haskell.
>
> There's always this: :-)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell
Yeah. Looks like my perfectly working login scripts are going to be
replaced with this at some point. For one reason or another, the guys
from HQ seem to like to do things in the most complex and difficult way
possible. I guess it makes them feel superior or something...
>> As a matter of fact, I wrote an MD5 program in Haskell. But it turns
>> out not to be very fast...
>
> Hehe, not surprising.
Come back after *you* have implemented MD5 _correctly_. It's nontrivial
to get it to work properly. :-P (There are all kinds of gotchas about
using little-endian integers, doing padding correctly, etc.)
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