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Warp wrote:
> Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieee org> wrote:
>> I was not aware you took politicians at their word...
>
> I was not aware you condoned rioting and violence.
I wasn't either.
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Q: What do you call a half-dozen Indians with Asian flu?
A: Six sick Sikhs (sic).
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Invisible wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>>> since reason and emotions are contradictory in nature
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>> I disagree with this. I think emotions help us decide what we want
>> and keep us working towards a goal, while reason lets us balance the
>> different emotions and decide which ones to act on and how.
>
> Emotions definitely *do* have logic to them.
I didn't mean to imply they didn't. I was merely speaking about the results,
not the mechanism. I was trying to express that reason and emotions work
together, not contradictory to each other. It's the emotions that are
contradictory to each other.
> I'd say that emotions are a set of logical heuristics. And, usually,
> they work quite well. But like all heuristics, sometimes they're wrong...
I don't know about "logical heuristics". Certainly "heuristics" tuned by
evolution.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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Feelings yes help you but I think only when they are properly railed as
in the examples you posted, I was writing about feelings per se, they
look only to satisfy needs those needs are 100% selfish and can go
against other feelings; that is why I wrote in nature, meaning by
themselves.
Example to clear my point: a wife and a husband are in the sea after
boat sinking, and a helicopter sends a line, the husband freaks (panics)
out and try to reach it stepping on her wife, this is pure feeling,
triggered by the self-preservation instinct, 0% reasoning, it goes
against love and guilt feelings and the reasoning/logic of the
consequences or the responsibilities as a
husband(protector/provider)/father.
A Feeling can be concurrent, deviating, contradictory, senseless,
unpredictable, caprice, overwhelming, etc., and in all this states it
follow the logic of satisfying itself, hence the need of guided logic to
do the best for the person and as an ultimate good the ironic
destruction of it for the wellbeing of another. This is when logic and
all feelings collapse but 1, love(as 100% non-selfish), as I have
accidentally proved is always the best logic of all at least the reason
of all true good; unfortunately love only works for all when all follow
its logic. Of course this is only my opinion.
Cheers.
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Sorry for the typos and grammar errors, too bad posts in NGs can't be
corrected.
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Saul Luizaga wrote:
> Sorry for the typos and grammar errors, too bad posts in NGs can't be
> corrected.
Try real life. THERE IS NO UNDO!!
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Saul Luizaga wrote:
> A Feeling can be concurrent, deviating, contradictory, senseless,
> unpredictable, caprice, overwhelming, etc., and in all this states it
> follow the logic of satisfying itself, hence the need of guided logic to
> do the best for the person and as an ultimate good the ironic
> destruction of it for the wellbeing of another.
I think we're in vigorous agreement. Nothing I think you said contradicts
anything I had intended to express. :-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>> Sorry for the typos and grammar errors, too bad posts in NGs can't be
>> corrected.
>
> Try real life. THERE IS NO UNDO!!
>
But there is ECC (Error checking and correcting) :)
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Darren New wrote:
> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>> A Feeling can be concurrent, deviating, contradictory, senseless,
>> unpredictable, caprice, overwhelming, etc., and in all this states it
>> follow the logic of satisfying itself, hence the need of guided logic
>> to do the best for the person and as an ultimate good the ironic
>> destruction of it for the wellbeing of another.
>
> I think we're in vigorous agreement. Nothing I think you said
> contradicts anything I had intended to express. :-)
>
I'm glad we have a complete understanding :-)
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