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Invisible wrote:
> Warp wrote:
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>> People are idiots.
>
> Or rather, at least *some* people are idiots.
>
> And these people tend to be the ones who shout the loudest, for some
> reason.
No. Everyone's an idiot. It's just easier to notice when they're being loud. :-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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Warp wrote:
> nemesis <nam### [at] gmail com> wrote:
>> Whoa, now I understand why this NG is so quiet today. Possibly many of
>> you UK folks gone to the riot?
>
> "As hosts, the UK Treasury produced an extended agenda pamphlet proposing
> the issues to be covered at the London Summit:
>
> 1. Coordinated macro-economic actions to revive the global economy,
> stimulate growth and employment - review measures taken and possible
> further steps"
>
> Gee, that's really something to riot for. How dare they try to do something
> to alleviate the economic crisis and improve the employment situation! They
> are definitely evil!
>
> People are idiots.
>
Even so since humans are also emotional and not only rational we tend to
contradict ourselves since reason and emotions are contradictory in
nature being both par of us, so even the most intelligent people get
stupid from time to time and some people tend to use selfrighteousness
to accommodate their mistakes to a more convenient and quiet conscience,
caring little or nothing about consequences that eventually will spread
like waves on a pond and affect us all, as everything we do is.
Not all people use reason, assertiveness, balanced emotions to overcome
their fears and problems, also some people make stupid decisions when
they suddenly have an overwhelmingly strong feeling, like deep fear,
panic, desperation, etc.
I think this should be a lifetime correcting and learning path for all
humans to compass our improvement in technology with soul/karma
improvement that also include tolerance to people fearful and more
shortsighted, narrow-minded and less IQ graded that the average (not
alluding anyone here).
Cheers.
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:-D
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Saul Luizaga wrote:
> since reason and emotions are contradictory in nature
I disagree with this. I think emotions help us decide what we want and keep
us working towards a goal, while reason lets us balance the different
emotions and decide which ones to act on and how.
Anger is an emotion. Anger at being cut off in traffic is below reason.
Reason tells you that the consequences of acting on that anger in any
violent kind of way are likely to cause even worse emotions, like
frustration at not being able to get past the prison guards.
Hunger is an emotion. Reason tells you where to go buy food to satisfy it.
Fear is an emotion. It keeps one running away from the predator, even if one
is also hungry and running past food. In this case, reason would agree with
the fear and keep you running. Unless you're being chased by the Terminator,
at which point you'll starve if you don't eat before he gives up, where
reason tells you the likely safest time to pause for a sandwich.
I don't think that reason and emotion are at odds. Different emotions are at
odds, sometimes, and one can use reason to decide which emotion is more
important to act on. It may seem like reason is contrary to emotion, but
it's just selecting different emotions to act on.
(The rest of your discussion is spot on. :-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:10:28 -0500, Mike Raiford wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
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>>> People are idiots.
>>
>> Or rather, at least *some* people are idiots.
>>
>> And these people tend to be the ones who shout the loudest, for some
>> reason.
>
> Most people are idiots.
Scott Adams got it right: We're all idiots from time to time.
Jim
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On 2-4-2009 17:12, Mike Raiford wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
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>> Stupid licensing BS... >:(
>
> Well... since it seems like it's only available in the U.S. It's the
> video for "Dare to be Stupid"
Works for me (in the Netherlands).
>
> Ironic, stupidity with regards to licensing of music videos killed this
> link :(
>
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Warp wrote:
> I find it rather ironic (and very hypocritical) that these people go
> and protest against commercialism, capitalism and the current economy
> model... and afterwards they drive their fancy cars to go to their
> fancy modern homes to watch their TV and prepare their cheap food in
> their fancy kitchens, etc.
>
> People are idiots.
Tu quoque is not a logical fallacy.
--
Life in a vacuum sucks.
/\ /\ /\ /
/ \/ \ u e e n / \/ a w a z
>>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
anl
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Warp wrote:
> nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Whoa, now I understand why this NG is so quiet today. Possibly many of
>> you UK folks gone to the riot?
>
> "As hosts, the UK Treasury produced an extended agenda pamphlet proposing
> the issues to be covered at the London Summit:
>
> 1. Coordinated macro-economic actions to revive the global economy,
> stimulate growth and employment - review measures taken and possible
> further steps"
>
> Gee, that's really something to riot for. How dare they try to do something
> to alleviate the economic crisis and improve the employment situation! They
> are definitely evil!
>
> People are idiots.
I was not aware you took politicians at their word...
--
Life in a vacuum sucks.
/\ /\ /\ /
/ \/ \ u e e n / \/ a w a z
>>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
anl
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Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
> I was not aware you took politicians at their word...
I was not aware you condoned rioting and violence.
--
- Warp
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Darren New wrote:
> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>> since reason and emotions are contradictory in nature
>
> I disagree with this. I think emotions help us decide what we want and
> keep us working towards a goal, while reason lets us balance the
> different emotions and decide which ones to act on and how.
Emotions definitely *do* have logic to them.
I'd say that emotions are a set of logical heuristics. And, usually,
they work quite well. But like all heuristics, sometimes they're wrong...
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