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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 29 Mar 2009 04:17:29
Message: <49cf2e99$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
> Same here.  :-)

Like I said in other post, what he's complaining about is pretty much
the reason I don't use Windows at home (yes, I even have a license for
XP Pro). All that hazzling and tuning and it still doesn't fit me.

> Jim

-Aero


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 29 Mar 2009 09:00:00
Message: <web.49cf6fe61757872e69fdbe750@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:23:31 -0400, clipka wrote:
>
> > Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> >> Maybe you should try a distro that's been developed and released in the
> >> last 5 years.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure someone experienced with tinkering around with Linux
> > sees these things differently, and possibly even rightly so.
> >
> > But what I've seen so far, with a modern distro (Debian Etch... well,
> > Lenny is out now, but I guess Etch will still qualify as modern), is
> > that it has improved somewhat, but switching from Windows to Linux is
> > probably still a full-time job...
>
> Nope, not at all.  Depends on what you do, of course, but no, it's not a
> full-time job.

As a side-note, after I bought myself a quad core, I gave my old PC to my
ex-wife.  She's now a proud user of Ubuntu.  No complaints so far.  She surfs
the web, write docs, manages her files, play music and videos, burn lots of
music CDs, changes the appearence of the workspace etc.  I simply don't hear
her saying it sucks or that she can't do any particular thing.  Computer
literacy:  she was a Windows user at work.

Occasionally she asks me to come over to solve some issue, like when she
downloaded some photos from friends and they had been given an automatic name
too big for Gnome's file-manager to deal with:  it simply stopped working and
had to be closed.  My palliative solution:  rename them from the command-line.
My suggestion to her:  give a sensible name when saving to disk.

She's also happy of course to have a personal technician who won't charge a dime
nor reinstall the system every 6 months. ;)


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 29 Mar 2009 14:30:54
Message: <49cfbe5e$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:56:06 -0400, nemesis wrote:

> As a side-note, after I bought myself a quad core, I gave my old PC to
> my ex-wife.  She's now a proud user of Ubuntu.  No complaints so far. 
> She surfs the web, write docs, manages her files, play music and videos,
> burn lots of music CDs, changes the appearence of the workspace etc.  I
> simply don't hear her saying it sucks or that she can't do any
> particular thing. Computer literacy:  she was a Windows user at work.

This is one use case that is pretty typical these days.

> Occasionally she asks me to come over to solve some issue, like when she
> downloaded some photos from friends and they had been given an automatic
> name too big for Gnome's file-manager to deal with:  it simply stopped
> working and had to be closed.  My palliative solution:  rename them from
> the command-line. My suggestion to her:  give a sensible name when
> saving to disk.

That's weird, because I haven't run into a naming issue (length-wise) 
with GNOME at all.  How long are the filenames?

> She's also happy of course to have a personal technician who won't
> charge a dime nor reinstall the system every 6 months.

:-)

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 29 Mar 2009 14:32:18
Message: <49cfbeb2$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:13:07 +0300, Eero Ahonen wrote:

> Like I said in other post, what he's complaining about is pretty much
> the reason I don't use Windows at home (yes, I even have a license for
> XP Pro). All that hazzling and tuning and it still doesn't fit me.

Yeah, I am licensed for all versions of Windows (I got an MSDN 
subscription through work that I very very occasionally still use) and I 
do have 2K and XP Virtual Machines that I use for a few things that still 
insist on IE or Windows (Siebel and the Blackberry desktop).

Jim


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 29 Mar 2009 18:55:01
Message: <web.49cffc051757872e1f48a4bd0@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> > Occasionally she asks me to come over to solve some issue, like when she
> > downloaded some photos from friends and they had been given an automatic
> > name too big for Gnome's file-manager to deal with:  it simply stopped
> > working and had to be closed.  My palliative solution:  rename them from
> > the command-line. My suggestion to her:  give a sensible name when
> > saving to disk.
>
> That's weird, because I haven't run into a naming issue (length-wise)
> with GNOME at all.  How long are the filenames?

I may be spelling it wrong, but I think it was something like
AEislkjkakljkasisbrewewolsuidzhoisah7682jhKjhkasjhiosubasaskfhbsaioasoisodnbsUIJjkajssuiIilklslalkjnsaewollAyehjhashsii
wwerYuygvskkjwesq.jpg
or something like that. :)

I don't remember if there were special characters in it, but I was able to use
autocomplete in bash and just mv it to a sane filename.  Gnome file manager
just froze and did not come back.  OTOH, it was a distro from 2007 though I
don't see any particular reason as to why even in 2007 very long names should
pose a problem.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 29 Mar 2009 22:10:44
Message: <49d02a24@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> moppel wrote:
>> miss is Linux' shell scripting capabilities.
> 
> Windows scripting host.
> Or PowerShell, which just hit Windows Update last week. I hear good things
> about it.

Regardless of the shell, there are some things that the OS just makes
harder...

Given a username in the active directory, I challenge you to get his SID, in
human-readable form, using Javascript in Windows Scripting Host.

By "human-readable", I mean the typical format:
S-1-0-00-0000000000-0000000000-0000000000-0000


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 30 Mar 2009 01:43:17
Message: <49d05bf5$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Given a username in the active directory, I challenge you to get his SID, in
> human-readable form, using Javascript in Windows Scripting Host.

Is this a start?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 30 Mar 2009 11:04:07
Message: <49d0df67$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:53:57 -0400, nemesis wrote:

> I may be spelling it wrong, but I think it was something like
> 
AEislkjkakljkasisbrewewolsuidzhoisah7682jhKjhkasjhiosubasaskfhbsaioasoisodnbsUIJjkajssuiIilklslalkjnsaewollAyehjhashsii
> wwerYuygvskkjwesq.jpg
> or something like that.
> 
> I don't remember if there were special characters in it, but I was able
> to use autocomplete in bash and just mv it to a sane filename.  Gnome
> file manager just froze and did not come back.  OTOH, it was a distro
> from 2007 though I don't see any particular reason as to why even in
> 2007 very long names should pose a problem.

Yeah, that is weird, definitely shouldn't have been a problem.

Jim


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 31 Mar 2009 12:21:13
Message: <49d242f9@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> Given a username in the active directory, I challenge you to get his SID,
>> in human-readable form, using Javascript in Windows Scripting Host.
> 
> Is this a start?

I tried using the Active Directory stuff (never used WMI). Getting the SID
returned a byte array. I found code online to convert that binary array to
the usually-formatted string, but apparently JScript doesn't support COM
byte arrays! (VBScript does)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 31 Mar 2009 12:23:45
Message: <49d24391$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> I tried using the Active Directory stuff (never used WMI).

Windows Management Instrumentation. Probably a good thing to peek into. :-)

> Getting the SID returned a byte array. 

I'm pretty sure you just break it up at the proper boundaries. At least, 
that's what I remember. Like taking a byte-array GUID and turning it into 
the usual printable version.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!


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