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From: Darren New
Subject: The sort of thing Windows just doesn't work for... :-)
Date: 25 Feb 2009 15:00:07
Message: <49a5a347$1@news.povray.org>
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Open source wall-wart computer
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10170648-54.html
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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unable to read this, even at arm's length."
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: The sort of thing Windows just doesn't work for... :-)
Date: 25 Feb 2009 15:14:52
Message: <49a5a6bc@news.povray.org>
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> Open source wall-wart computer
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10170648-54.html
Given that it runs linux, I really can't understand this: "It seems that
the only way to interact with it is via a Web browser."
Exactly what stops it from supporting SSH, the de-facto way of using a
unix computer remotely?
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: The sort of thing Windows just doesn't work for... :-)
Date: 25 Feb 2009 16:38:20
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
>> Open source wall-wart computer
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10170648-54.html
>
> Given that it runs linux, I really can't understand this: "It seems that
> the only way to interact with it is via a Web browser."
>
> Exactly what stops it from supporting SSH, the de-facto way of using a
> unix computer remotely?
I think it's more likely a case that "web browser" and "internet" is the
same thing to this guy, in spite of his supposed credentials. :-) "Can't
plug in a monitor" means "only web access" to him.
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: The sort of thing Windows just doesn't work for... :-)
Date: 25 Feb 2009 18:35:36
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> >> Open source wall-wart computer
> >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10170648-54.html
> >
> > Given that it runs linux, I really can't understand this: "It seems that
> > the only way to interact with it is via a Web browser."
> >
> > Exactly what stops it from supporting SSH, the de-facto way of using a
> > unix computer remotely?
> I think it's more likely a case that "web browser" and "internet" is the
> same thing to this guy, in spite of his supposed credentials. :-) "Can't
> plug in a monitor" means "only web access" to him.
It wouldn't even make any sense if the computer was only accessible
through a web browser. For example to install, configure and manage
software and their settings, they would have to develop a whole new
html-based interface and all the backing software, rather than simply
using the myriads of free, tested console-based unix programs out there
which are perfectly usable through ssh. (They could, of course, have a
simplified html frontend for configuring certain things easily with a
web browser, but it would be rather silly for it to be the *only* way
to access the system.)
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The sort of thing Windows just doesn't work for... :-)
Date: 25 Feb 2009 18:43:58
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:35:36 -0500, Warp wrote:
> It wouldn't even make any sense if the computer was only accessible
> through a web browser. For example to install, configure and manage
> software and their settings, they would have to develop a whole new
> html-based interface and all the backing software
http://www.webmin.com
Been using that for years myself.
Jim
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: The sort of thing Windows just doesn't work for... :-)
Date: 25 Feb 2009 18:58:14
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Warp wrote:
> It wouldn't even make any sense if the computer was only accessible
> through a web browser.
Agreed. I'm not even sure what it would be good for if you couldn't run your
own stuff on it. :-)
I've seen devices that were dedicated. Looked real sweet. File server, web
server, torrent client/server, print server, mail repository (it would
download your mail from a variety of POP and IMAP servers and put it all in
one place via imap and web mail for you), etc etc. And it was like $600 or
something. But that had disk built in and all that, so it was more an
appliance than anything.
I think this guy just doesn't know what he's talking about. Someone probably
showed him the web front end and he didn't think any further.
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: The sort of thing Windows just doesn't work for... :-)
Date: 25 Feb 2009 19:17:11
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:35:36 -0500, Warp wrote:
> > It wouldn't even make any sense if the computer was only accessible
> > through a web browser. For example to install, configure and manage
> > software and their settings, they would have to develop a whole new
> > html-based interface and all the backing software
> http://www.webmin.com
> Been using that for years myself.
I suppose something like that will suffice if you never need to do
anything that it doesn't support.
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The sort of thing Windows just doesn't work for... :-)
Date: 25 Feb 2009 23:05:01
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:17:11 -0500, Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:35:36 -0500, Warp wrote:
>
>> > It wouldn't even make any sense if the computer was only accessible
>> > through a web browser. For example to install, configure and manage
>> > software and their settings, they would have to develop a whole new
>> > html-based interface and all the backing software
>
>> http://www.webmin.com
>
>> Been using that for years myself.
>
> I suppose something like that will suffice if you never need to do
> anything that it doesn't support.
Well, it also includes a Java-based SSH client. ;-)
But also for someone doing development with one of the devices mentioned
in the root article, creation of a webmin module wouldn't be difficult....
Jim
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