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http://qdb.us/294563
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Invisible a écrit :
> http://qdb.us/294563
Heh. Actually fencers of the past have been known to be very fond of
geometry, especially the Spanish schools from the Renaissance onwards.
A plate from the biggest fencing manual ever written (Girard Thibault's
Académie de l'Espée):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Girard_Thibault_-_Academie_de_l-Espee_1628_Met._museum.jpg
Some diagrams that fits the QDB description quite well :-) :
http://www.martinez-destreza.com/articles/spanish2.htm
A brief description of how the system looks like from the outside :
http://technogypsy.net/roaches/2004/lansing.htm
> The Spanish rapier school as explained by Narvaez is the kind of
> sword-fighting that could only be invented by guys who have a lot of time on
> their hands, and who think WAY too much. While remaining sober.
More history here:
http://www.plumes.org/destreza/index.html
Spanish fencers have been mocked for their strange ways sometimes, but
it can be made to work surprisingly well :-)
--
Vincent
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Vincent Le Chevalier wrote:
> Spanish fencers have been mocked for their strange ways sometimes, but
> it can be made to work surprisingly well :-)
Hahahaha!
"Fear me, if you dare. I will trisect your testicles and cube their
volume using only a compass and straightedge!"
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
news:499be2bc@news.povray.org...
> Hahahaha!
>
> "Fear me, if you dare. I will trisect your testicles and cube their volume
> using only a compass and straightedge!"
rapier wit?
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On 2/18/2009 2:22 AM, Vincent Le Chevalier wrote:
> Spanish fencers have been mocked for their strange ways sometimes,
Especially that one guy, Inigo Montoya!
--
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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Invisible wrote:
> http://qdb.us/294563
Reminds me of the scene in MIB where Will Smith's character does the
test with all of the pop-up figures. He doesn't shoot any of them, but
the girl carrying the Quantum Physics book.
--
~Mike
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Chambers wrote:
> On 2/18/2009 2:22 AM, Vincent Le Chevalier wrote:
>> Spanish fencers have been mocked for their strange ways sometimes,
>
> Especially that one guy, Inigo Montoya!
There's something he's not telling us, you know.
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"Vincent Le Chevalier" <gal### [at] libertyALLsurfSPAMfr> wrote in
message
> A plate from the biggest fencing manual ever written (Girard Thibault's
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Girard_Thibault_-_Academie_de_l-Espee_1628_Met._museum.jpg
Wow, what an amazing picture. Ok, drawing. Notice that all unused arms
just hang freely and vertically, even when the person is depicted as moving.
Also notice that a right-handed guy is always fencing a left-handed guy - in
all pairs shown.
I wonder why? Easier to draw from some template?
~Steve~
> --
> Vincent
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St. a écrit :
> "Vincent Le Chevalier" <gal### [at] libertyALLsurfSPAMfr> wrote in
> message
>
>> A plate from the biggest fencing manual ever written (Girard Thibault's
>> Académie de l'Espée):
>
>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Girard_Thibault_-_Academie_de_l-Espee_1628_Met._museum.jpg
>
> Wow, what an amazing picture. Ok, drawing. Notice that all unused arms
> just hang freely and vertically, even when the person is depicted as moving.
> Also notice that a right-handed guy is always fencing a left-handed guy - in
> all pairs shown.
>
> I wonder why? Easier to draw from some template?
>
I think the unused arms are shown like this because people were posing
for the artist. Or it is a way to show economy of motion, of which
Thibault seems quite fond of. Actually, I only really understood what
the plates show when reading the text, because the engravings look so
static... I believe the author did not intend them to show fight scenes,
but training scenes, which is why most of it seems so calm, discounting
the fact that sometimes swords go through heads :-)
As for left vs. right, it's simply because that plate goes with the
chapter about how to fence a left-handed opponent :-D There is one such
plate for each chapter, each of the figures show parts of a continuous
action, a bit like a flip-book. As close to a film as they could get in
1628 ;-) And there are 46 chapters, just to give you an idea of the work
that went into that book...
There are scans from all the pages here if you want to take a deeper
look (the engravings are always the last scans in the listing):
http://ardamhe.free.fr/biblio/Thibault/
One especially significant scan for the geometry lovers:
http://ardamhe.free.fr/biblio/Thibault/Livre%201/Tableau%2001/L1%20Tab%2001.jpg
I actually think he put some unnecessary lines in there :-)
--
Vincent
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