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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Knot theory
Date: 19 Feb 2009 12:08:57
Message: <499d9229$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
>>     Not an ACM member, but someone told me that every member gets
>> access to
>> all their journals. 
> 
> Maybe online these days. There were definitely subscription fees for the
> paper versions back when I was still doing that sort of thing.

	Yes - I meant for online. Who subscribes to paper versions anymore -
other than institutions?

>> I've also heard that over the last few years, a number of professional
>> societies (one or both of the US physics ones, and perhaps IEEE as well)
>> actually do allow you to put preprints online or on places like arxiv.
> 
> Apparently not ACM.  I've seen a number of online papers taken down
> because the copyright was signed over to ACM.

	But were those the actual ACM articles, or the preprints? You still
can't post the former without permission.

-- 
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until you hear them speak.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Knot theory
Date: 19 Feb 2009 18:49:02
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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> 	Yes - I meant for online. Who subscribes to paper versions anymore -
> other than institutions?

I haven't really done the academic paper stuff since the times of paper. :-)

> 	But were those the actual ACM articles, or the preprints? You still
> can't post the former without permission.

They were papers published by researchers, left online for many months, then 
taken down when they were accepted to ACM publications. The links to the 
papers were replaced to links to "please pay the ACM for these papers."

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."


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