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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Today's amusements
Date: 13 Feb 2009 04:11:19
Message: <49953937$1@news.povray.org>
>> I wonder how well it will "work" once we have a few GB of data in there
>> though?
> 
> How long has your company been in business, how many employees do they 
> have, and what's their turnover like?

Company history: 25 years.

Current workforce: Approx 500 people.

Turnover: Increasing exponentially.


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Today's amusements
Date: 13 Feb 2009 07:09:38
Message: <49956302$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Isn't there a row limit in Excel?
> 
> By the time you've hired and fired 65,000 employees, you'll probably
> have migrated to a better system.
> 

Yes, there is a slight possibility that at that time they have at least
one computer running Excel 2007.

-Aero


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Today's amusements
Date: 13 Feb 2009 07:14:03
Message: <4995640b$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> Company history: 25 years.
> 
> Current workforce: Approx 500 people.
> 
> Turnover: Increasing exponentially.

How prophetic those words...

On Tuesday somebody asked me whether I'd set up the user account yet. 
Apparently we have a new member of staff arrive on Monday. Nobody 
bothered to tell me that.

Ah, but that's tame. Apparently nobody bothered to tell Finance either, 
and they're refusing to pay his wages. So the guy is, like, 5 days into 
his training, and they've just told him "Sorry, we won't be employing 
you. Go home."

Uh, whiskey tango foxtrot, out.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Today's amusements
Date: 13 Feb 2009 07:18:29
Message: <49956515@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> So the guy is, like, 5 days into 
> his training, and they've just told him "Sorry, we won't be employing 
> you. Go home."
> 
> Uh, whiskey tango foxtrot, out.

Thinking further about this... I was under the impression that this kind 
of behaviour is actually *illegal*.

As in, if you promise somebody a job, in writing, you're not allowed to 
then arbitrarily retract that offer a few days later.

Perhaps I'm mistaken?


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Today's amusements
Date: 13 Feb 2009 07:24:37
Message: <49956685$1@news.povray.org>
> Perhaps I'm mistaken?

Was a contract signed?


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Today's amusements
Date: 13 Feb 2009 08:46:50
Message: <499579ca$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> 
> Thinking further about this... I was under the impression that this kind 
> of behaviour is actually *illegal*.
> 
> As in, if you promise somebody a job, in writing, you're not allowed to 
> then arbitrarily retract that offer a few days later.
> 
> Perhaps I'm mistaken?

Perfectly legal here. The state I'm in has what they call At-Will 
employment. Either party can terminate the employment at any time for 
any reason.

What isn't legal is not getting paid for the 5 days of wages.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Today's amusements
Date: 13 Feb 2009 08:53:19
Message: <49957b4f@news.povray.org>
>> Perhaps I'm mistaken?
> 
> Was a contract signed?

Not yet, I don't think.

Even so, I was under the impression that if a company tells you in 
writing that they're going to employ you, they're required to do so.


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Today's amusements
Date: 13 Feb 2009 11:36:47
Message: <4995a19f@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> 
> Thinking further about this... I was under the impression that this kind
> of behaviour is actually *illegal*.
> 
> As in, if you promise somebody a job, in writing, you're not allowed to
> then arbitrarily retract that offer a few days later.
> 
> Perhaps I'm mistaken?

Dunno about Britain, but in Finland there's two main kinds of employing
contracts - one's done for a defined period (eg. 1 year) and the other
one is until otherwise is chosen. On the latter one there usually is a
notice time (2 weeks to 2 months), on which either part is allowed to
snap off the contract at any time. After that time the employee can snap
off the contract and have a ending notice time (also usually 2 weeks to
2 months). The employer is also allowed to do that, but they need a good
reason for it.

The case you defined would drop to the starting notice time here.

-Aero


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Today's amusements
Date: 13 Feb 2009 14:08:37
Message: <4995c535$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Even so, I was under the impression that if a company tells you in 
> writing that they're going to employ you, they're required to do so.

I don't know about the UK, but in the USA, that's true of a verbal promise 
too. It's just a heck of a lot harder to hold someone to it.

And since the state likes to get their income tax, this is exactly the kind 
of situation where the employee wins pretty easily.  He should at least get 
his five days pay, I'd think.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Today's amusements
Date: 13 Feb 2009 14:23:22
Message: <4995c8aa$1@news.povray.org>
>> Even so, I was under the impression that if a company tells you in 
>> writing that they're going to employ you, they're required to do so.
> 
> I don't know about the UK, but in the USA, that's true of a verbal 
> promise too. It's just a heck of a lot harder to hold someone to it.
> 
> And since the state likes to get their income tax, this is exactly the 
> kind of situation where the employee wins pretty easily.  He should at 
> least get his five days pay, I'd think.

Apparently they're going to pay him for 2 weeks' work (even though he 
only actually did one). But still, if I were him, I'd be PISSED!

Or... possibly glad I found out the company was retarded without 
actually being stuck there? :-D

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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