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>> I though I'd actually be quite
>> useful to them, given what I know and what I'm capable (and motivated)
>> of learning.
>
> Oh, and I should say - good for you FINALLY thinking something positive
> about yourself. This type of attitude is a good thing to have!
Well, given that they don't seem to agree, and they know better than
me... hmm....
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Invisible wrote:
> They won't speak to me by phone. Apparently the application goes to the
> department who's trying to do the hire, and it's down to individual
> departments to decide who they do or don't hire.
Well, that sucks. On the plus side consider this: Do you really want to
work for a company that appears to treat people like a commodity?
--
~Mike
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On 16-Jan-09 10:10, Invisible wrote:
> andrel wrote:
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>> If you even consider suicide do it in style, virtual, on the internet.
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> ...WTF? o_O
>
> You mean, something like this:
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> http://www.bash.org/?488793
no
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Invisible wrote:
> http://www.bash.org/?488793
Wow. That's really screwed up..
--
~Mike
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
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>> http://www.bash.org/?488793
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> Wow. That's really screwed up..
Yep. I think the final line says it all.
In a similar style:
http://www.bash.org/?239870
There are apparently some very, very sick people on the Internet...
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Invisible wrote:
> There are apparently some very, very sick people on the Internet...
Obviously.
--
~Mike
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Well, that sucks. On the plus side consider this: Do you really want to
> work for a company that appears to treat people like a commodity?
Agreed. I wrote to a group at Microsoft, because I thought what they were
researching was really cool. A big long cover letter explaining how cool I
thought they were and everything. Three minutes later, I get back
"applications go thru HR. And we don't hire for particular projects, just
general departments."
As my brother pointed out, "good thing you found out the boss is a dick
*before* you got the job."
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
There aren't any trees on Mars.
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:44:14 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>>> I though I'd actually be quite
>>> useful to them, given what I know and what I'm capable (and motivated)
>>> of learning.
>>
>> Oh, and I should say - good for you FINALLY thinking something positive
>> about yourself. This type of attitude is a good thing to have!
>
> Well, given that they don't seem to agree, and they know better than
> me... hmm....
No, continue with the positive attitude, not this negative attitude. You
are capable and motivated to learn. That's important.
Jim
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:30:08 -0600, Mike Raiford wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
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>> They won't speak to me by phone. Apparently the application goes to the
>> department who's trying to do the hire, and it's down to individual
>> departments to decide who they do or don't hire.
>
> Well, that sucks. On the plus side consider this: Do you really want to
> work for a company that appears to treat people like a commodity?
Yeah, this is true. Having worked for companies that treat people like
that, I can attest that it really sucks to find that out afterwards.
Andy, the lesson to learn here is that interviews and job applications
are a two-way-street. You are interviewing them just as much as they are
interviewing you. If they act like total dicks during the interview, the
chances are that that won't change once they hire you.
I probably told you about the interview I gave a storage device
manufacturer. I'd written a book on the technology they were interested
in hiring me for and am recognised as an expert in the field, but they
didn't give me a second interview because I wasn't certified in the OS.
It didn't matter that I was one of (at the time) about 20 people in the
world supporting the product online for the vendor, and that being one of
those people is invitation-only.
If I had been hired, any time I disagreed with the people who got the
certification, I was guaranteed to be wrong. Not because I didn't know
the technology (I knew it better than any of them did, and they knew that
from talking to me about it - and admitted that during the interview),
but I'd be wrong because I didn't have the damned piece of paper.
I'm so glad I didn't end up working for them.
Jim
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Invisible wrote:
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> There are apparently some very, very sick people on the Internet...
Hands up everyone who's surprised because of this!
No? I didn't think so.. :P
-Aero
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