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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Acer Aspire 5000
Date: 9 Jan 2009 09:45:18
Message: <9koem4h8u834emn37nbqhk3ucqrnk1mnul@4ax.com>
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:28:51 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>

>can only assume that your drenched clothing somehow kept you a few 
>degrees cooler than that or something. (Surely water must evapourate 
>stupidly fast at almost boiling point!)
>
At those temperatures your clothing is bone dry. If it had been wet then there
is a big chance of being scalded. (Counter intuitive, I know)

>Reminds me of the time I was trapped by a fire. I didn't realise that 
>skin could actually excrete water that fast. I'm not kidding, I had 
>water *pouring* off me like water flows out of a tap. I have no idea how 
>much water there is in the human body, but I'd suggest fatal dehydration 
>couldn't take very long at that speed. (I had one *bad* headache 
>afterwards!)

It is amazing how fast you can sweat once you get started.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Arttu Voutilainen
Subject: Re: Acer Aspire 5000
Date: 9 Jan 2009 10:31:24
Message: <49676dcc$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:



> *serious* protective clothing...

Ever heard of sauna? ;P

-- Arttu Voutilainen


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Acer Aspire 5000
Date: 9 Jan 2009 12:40:21
Message: <49678c05$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> Probably some sort of continuous calibration system to account for 
> temperature changes etc, I guess the head movement mechanisms need to be 
> controlled pretty accurately!

Interesting idea. Maybe I'll leave it on for a few minutes, idle, and see if 
it keeps making noises after it has been spinning for a while.

As an aside, it turns out that on CDMA at least, the list of cell phone 
numbers that should start ringing during this 1.25 time fits in one or two 
packets, and is sorted by phone number, so while you're listening, if you 
hear a higher phone number in the list, you can power down. It turns out you 
have to adjust the sleep timer depending on how many phone numbers you 
listened to, because running the receiver heats up the quartz crystal 
differently depending on how long it runs, so the timer runs at a different 
speed, and you'll miss your wake-up window if you don't.  Pretty intensely 
complicated inside there.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
   There aren't any trees on Mars.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Acer Aspire 5000
Date: 9 Jan 2009 12:41:51
Message: <49678c5f$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> Can this actually happen though, or does the CPU just shut down before 
> it knows it is going to melt?

I once came home to a powered-down Windows machine that had been doing a 
render. When I turned it on, I got a pop-up from Windows saying it had been 
shut down due to temperature problems.  (Poorly-ventilated machine inside a 
cabinet.)

I suspect both the OS and MB monitor the heat.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
   There aren't any trees on Mars.


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From: Fredrik Eriksson
Subject: Re: Acer Aspire 5000
Date: 9 Jan 2009 13:29:55
Message: <op.unh5n5kt7bxctx@e6600.bredbandsbolaget.se>
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:58:06 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>
> http://vadim.oversigma.com/MAS862/Project.html
>
> Suggests that the entire body consumes about 100W, and the brain itself  
> uses 20 - 40 W. (So... a pretty significant fraction, considering that  
> the human body is *not* a data processing device, primarily.) That's how  
> much energy it *uses*, I wonder how much of that ends up as heat?

http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2009-01-05/


-- 
FE


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Acer Aspire 5000
Date: 10 Jan 2009 10:43:52
Message: <4968c238@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> 
> Yes, I *will* buy the same CPU brand as the melted one. You know why?
> The rival brand uses a different socket. :-P

You'd buy that CPU from Acer?

> OTOH, it would probably be both *cheaper* and more beneficial to just
> buy an entire new laptop! ;-)

That's what I ment, they can sell you a new laptop. And if eg. Acer was
fine in other ways but it, hmm, kind of.. melted, you're granted to buy
new Acer. Right?

I just might think about another laptop-brand. I might check Dell or
Lenovo, if my HP melted oslt.

-Aero


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Acer Aspire 5000
Date: 10 Jan 2009 10:50:24
Message: <4968c3c0@news.povray.org>
Arttu Voutilainen wrote:
> 
> Ever heard of sauna? ;P

I guess he hasn't. But damn, not only you beat me asking that, but you
also made me think if I should heat one up. Get some nice 70-80C to air
and vaporaze some liters of water to it...

Hmm, naah. It's too warm outside to get best out of it :(.

> -- Arttu Voutilainen

-Aero


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Acer Aspire 5000
Date: 10 Jan 2009 10:57:24
Message: <4968c564@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> 
> I suspect both the OS and MB monitor the heat.
> 

And they should. The OS can do pretty sophisticated things in such
manner, while estimating the overheat - it can shut down or freeze
processes nicely, it can hibernate or power down nicely etc. The MB...
Well, via ACPI it can tell the OS to do (at least most of) these things
also, but it (also) should be able to cruely cut the power, in case of
OS crashing hard (you know, kernel panic, BSOD etc) and not being able
to do anything nicely.

-Aero


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Acer Aspire 5000
Date: 10 Jan 2009 11:54:40
Message: <4968d2d0$1@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:

> I just might think about another laptop-brand. I might check Dell or
> Lenovo, if my HP melted oslt.

I am constantly baffled at people who think that buying things from Dell 
is a valid thing to do... ;-)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Acer Aspire 5000
Date: 10 Jan 2009 13:15:04
Message: <4968e5a8@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> 
> I am constantly baffled at people who think that buying things from Dell
> is a valid thing to do... ;-)
> 

We do run them at work, you know. For which brand do you have such an
experience? ;-)

-Aero


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