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From: Fredrik Eriksson
Subject: Re: infested computers - how does it happen?
Date: 8 Dec 2008 17:26:26
Message: <op.ulu7abn17bxctx@e6600>
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:08:57 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>>> (I wonder how many people think you have to connect a PC to special
>>> "PC speakers"?)
>> Errr, you do. A "PC speaker" is one with an amplifier built in.
>
> Errr, you don't. There needs to be an amplifier somewhere in the signal
> path, for sure. But there's no particular requirement for it to be built
> into the speaker, or indeed for the speaker to be specially designed for
> use with a PC.
Indeed, I used to have unpowered speakers (made for use with PCs)
connected to my PC and they sounded just fine. Of course, sound cards back
then (about a decade ago) had built-in amplifiers powerful enough to drive
small speakers to a decent volume.
--
FE
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>> Errr, you don't. There needs to be an amplifier somewhere in the
>> signal path, for sure. But there's no particular requirement for it to
>> be built into the speaker, or indeed for the speaker to be specially
>> designed for use with a PC.
>
> Indeed, I used to have unpowered speakers (made for use with PCs)
> connected to my PC and they sounded just fine. Of course, sound cards
> back then (about a decade ago) had built-in amplifiers powerful enough
> to drive small speakers to a decent volume.
Like I say, you can easily connect your PC to an ordinary stereo system
if it has the appropriate inputs. You don't have to buy a magical set of
"PC speakers". ;-)
But I wonder how many other people know that? Maybe all this "25-channel
surround-sound" stuff is merely a ploy to sell more PC speakers? :-D
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
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> Like I say, you can easily connect your PC to an ordinary stereo system
> if it has the appropriate inputs. You don't have to buy a magical set of
> "PC speakers". ;-)
>
And if the system doesn't have the appropriate inputs, they usually can
be made (makes a bit work, though) :p.
> But I wonder how many other people know that? Maybe all this "25-channel
> surround-sound" stuff is merely a ploy to sell more PC speakers? :-D
Not to imagine how many sources actually provide more than 7.1 (even
which is really rare - 5.1 is much more usual) channels.
-Aero
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> (I wonder how many people think you have to connect a PC to special
>>> "PC speakers"?)
>>
>> Errr, you do. A "PC speaker" is one with an amplifier built in.
>
> Errr, you don't. There needs to be an amplifier somewhere in the signal
> path, for sure.
Well, yes, fine. I was just saying, there's something called "PC Speakers"
and it means speakers with an amp built in.
> Personally, I have my PC connected to a real HiFi amplifier - along with
> my CD player and so forth. (Not that my mother lets me turn the actual
> speakers on very often... but that's another story!)
That works too. I got tired of needing 23 switches to decide what I was
listening to, routing music thru the pieces like plumbing a house.
> Do you actually have 17 (or whatever it is) individual speakers set up
> around you? :-D
Six, actually. Eight would be overkill.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Darren New wrote:
> Six, actually. Eight would be overkill.
What? No DTS? Still Dolby Digital, eh?
--
~Mike
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>
>> Six, actually. Eight would be overkill.
>
> What? No DTS? Still Dolby Digital, eh?
It took me most of a day to post-hoc run the speaker wires for what I have,
let alone more. :-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Darren New wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> Darren New wrote:
>>
>>> Six, actually. Eight would be overkill.
>>
>> What? No DTS? Still Dolby Digital, eh?
>
> It took me most of a day to post-hoc run the speaker wires for what I
> have, let alone more. :-)
>
Eh... I'm expecting to receive a blu-ray player sooon, and have a 5.1
system, no intention to add the new speakers, even though the receiver
supports 7.1 I'm sure there's some marginal gain ... I suspect I'll
hardly notice.
--
~Mike
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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: infested computers - how does it happen?
Date: 13 Dec 2008 21:42:05
Message: <4944727d@news.povray.org>
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FWIW and my last post here: simple answer: ur brother installs them;
free this, free that, BUT u need to install this "small" app (usually
malware as a trojan) and similar actions on The Net.
Possible solution in case u don't know:
- Turn off Windows Firewall (if u use it) and download
personalfirewall.comodo.com (freeware, with and optional payed extended
security) select Defense+ type install, don't install th Antivirus, let
it install Safe Surf, configure The zones(intranets, DNS, etc. try to
add the localhost (127.0.0.1) in the Stealth Ports Wizard to avoid too
much asking from Security+). Is a great firewall, but don't take the
word of a pirate for it, look for urself:
http://www.testmypcsecurity.com/view_results.html
http://www.testmypcsecurity.com/view_results_xp.html
http://www.testmypcsecurity.com/view_results_vista.html
- Install Avast! Home Edition (freeware, for better protection u can buy
the full ver.) here:
http://download609.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html. Manual update
can be download it here: http://files.avast.com/iavs4pro/vpsupd.exe
- Go here: http://www.vengine.com/ download it and install it. Checks
authenticity of websites.
- Finally go to http://www.lavasoft.com/single/trialpay.php download it
and install it to run it manually in case of suspicious behavior from
the PC.
Optionally: Clean & Secure ur Windows Registry:
- http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ donwload and
install ERUNT (includes NTREGOPT), ERUNT secures by creating executable
Registry Back-ups and NTREGOPT cleans it. U may want to add this to the
command line parameters of ERUNT on the Startup Folder: /days:7 (default
is 30) and redirect the back-up copies if u need to.
- http://www.ccleaner.com/
If all these doesn't work try to re-install Windows and apps, always the
securest solution but not always best. Good luck.
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The adding the local host (127.0.0.1) to the Stealth Ports Wizard is
only good once the PC is clean, coz both, software and malware use it to
access PC resources.
U may also put the COMODO Firewall' Defense+ in Paranoid mode until is
clean and acitvate 'Show ballon messages' to everything Windows and
programs are doing, also check the active connections to see 'weird'
.exe files accesing The Net(Internet) or the localhost (ur PC).
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Self correction the speed site was www.Speedtest.net.
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