scott wrote:
>>> Yes, but analog sounds better, and you CAN hear the difference!
>>>
>>> ;)
>>
>> Not with consumer-grade equipment you can't. :-P
> 
> Of course you can hear the difference, usually the (perhaps superior) 
> analog recording is accompanied by lots of crackles and hiss ;-)

Indeed. The CD itself is *highly* unlikely to be the weakest point in 
the chain. Maybe the recording was done with cheap microphones, maybe 
the sound engineer wasn't the best, and maybe your speakers suck. But 
the CD itself is far from being the weakest link.

> Seriously though, perhaps not with your 25.99 record deck+amp+speakers 
> from Argos, but if you spend a few hundred quid on each component (deck, 
> amp, speakers) you will be *really* surprised how different it sounds to 
> CD.


still waiting to hear a difference. ;-) (And I'm a musician, remember?)

> I did just this a few months back when my dad got down his old deck 
> and tidied it up, we had a few records that we also had on CD.  Whilst 
> it was hard to say which was "better" or "worse", there was definitely a 
> very noticeable difference in the sound "feeling".

Which probably just means they were mastered differently. Hey, maybe the 
LPs date to the valve era? It's widely reported that valve amps sound 
quite different to transistor amps...

-- 
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>> Maybe the CDs just had more compression (of the dynamic range variety) I 
>> don't know.
>>
> I don't see why one would compress dynamics more on a CD with a 90+ dB 
> signal to noise ratio available than on a LP with a mere 60dB :-)

Because usually CDs are played on way cheaper and lower quality equipment 
than LPs?

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> waiting to hear a difference. ;-) (And I'm a musician, remember?)

Do you have a decent record deck and preamp, and a comparable LP/CD to test 
though?

> Which probably just means they were mastered differently.

Probably, damn why do they have to mess about with stuff like this!

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>> I don't see why one would compress dynamics more on a CD with a 90+ dB 
>> signal to noise ratio available than on a LP with a mere 60dB :-)
>
> Because usually CDs are played on way cheaper and lower quality equipment 
> than LPs?
>
That's true now than LP desks owners are only audio fans but when it was the 
only equipment choice you could find crap more often than gold.

Marc

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> LPs date to the valve era? It's widely reported that valve amps sound 
> quite different to transistor amps...

Hmmm. Most guitar amps are valve. I think the main difference is how 
they act in overdrive, as compared to something like MOSFET.

-- 
~Mike

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Shay wrote:
> 
> 1. The person who f**ks with computers, programming, etc. so much that
> he is eventually able to turn his hobby into a career. 

Sounds like me.

> Those I know of
> this type really do have no lives. 

Usually having "no life" can be translated directly into "not having a
girl-/boyfriend" and/or "not enjoying all freetime at bars/pubs/nightclubs".

Yes, I live alone and I actually enjoy my home and being here. That
might have something to do with years of work to get such homy home, but
also has something to do with my nature.

> After the long work hours, 

Agreed, I do some days longer than needed. Then again, it has something
to do with traffic - while I can choose my own working times (as long as
I do enough work, so my employer gets what it pays for), I adjust them
mostly so that traffic would be as easy as possible, since my job is
75km away from my home.

> the junk
> food, 

Yes, I daily eat at restaurants or lunch restaurants. If that's junk
food, then I'll let it be junk food.

> the smoking, 

No, this I can't agree - I've never smoked a single cigarette in my life.

> and WOW, there isn't much time or energy left for a
> life.

Yes, from time to time. But that's not due to listed reasons, that's
because personal case-by-case choices (for example this friday-evening
goes resting, because me and one friend went to get a new puppy for her,
the trip took 17h15min and little over 1Mm - I was at home 4:15 at night).

>  -Shay

-Aero, breaking the generalizing

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Chambers wrote:
> 
> Yes, but analog sounds better, and you CAN hear the difference!

Yes. Try driving digital signal to the speakers themselves ;).

> ;)
> 
> ...Ben Chambers
> www.pacificwebguy.com

-Aero

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>> Yes, but analog sounds better, and you CAN hear the difference!
> 
> Yes. Try driving digital signal to the speakers themselves ;).

I rather suspect you'd hear nothing at all. Digital signals usually 
operate at frequencies way outside the sensitivity of the human ear, if 
not the speaker cones themselves... (Besides being *far* too low 
amplitude in the first place.)

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*

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scott wrote:
> A quick google brought up several jobs at Nokia which seem to fit:

And I'll point out that learning about cell phones seems to give you a 
lifetime career, in the sense that you can walk into anywhere building 
or selling cell phones, say "I know technical details about how they 
work", and pick up a job.

(I say "seems to" because who knows if cell phones will be replaced by 
something even more magical in the future. :-)

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)

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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> 
> Usually having "no life" can be translated directly into "not having a
> girl-/boyfriend" and/or "not enjoying all freetime at bars/pubs/nightclubs".

Having "no life" is missing out on the kinds in relationships which take 
hours and hours to develop - is not being able to keep commitments you 
*wan't* to keep - is failing to progress in your personal goals outside 
of one non-social area of interest.

I'm a little compulsive, so I've been there myself (most have, I'm 
sure), and would be very wary of entering an occupation which led me 
into that kind of dark corner. Too many in my generation (I'm 35) have. 
We were told as children than programmers would be as respected and 
wealthy as doctors. Some can treat computer-work like any other career, 
but many get caught up with gaming, chatrooms, internet, learning new 
languages, etc..

  -Shay

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