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From: Gail
Subject: Re: It must be friday
Date: 31 Oct 2008 16:10:59
Message: <490b6653@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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>
> Last time I checked, 60 GB is the smallest. (They stopped selling 40 GB a 
> while ago though.) For whatever reason, HDs never sell for less than about 

> of metal in the case costs or something.

You can buy 80GB here, if you look hard enough. I looked for quite a while 
and bought one that wasn't much cheaper than a 160. (80 GB drive for the OS. 
More would have been wasted)

> (At the exchange rate *before* the world entered a global recession, $50 

>




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From: Gail
Subject: Re: It must be friday
Date: 31 Oct 2008 16:15:08
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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message 
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> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Are you serious?
>
> Yeah. I just picked up a terabyte SATA drive for $120 a couple days ago, 
> for a backup. The smallest thing on the shelf that wasn't a laptop drive 
> was 160G, and those were all on clearance.

Sweet. I'm considering picking up a 500GB or 1TB drive while I'm over there 
for an external. I should be able to get a casing here without much trouble, 
but the drivers are definitly cheaper in the US, even considering the 
exchange rate.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: It must be friday
Date: 31 Oct 2008 19:25:36
Message: <490B9444.4060606@hotmail.com>
On 31-Oct-08 13:13, Invisible wrote:

> The new global backup procedure that's being drafted will mean that 
> backup tapes are stored *forever*. (With the corresponding astronomical 
> increase in expenditure on new tapes and physical storage space. But 
> hey, it's not my money.)

As long as the amount of data your company produces increases less than 
the equivalent of moore's law for harddisk space (which I am pretty sure 
it does) the expenditure will exponentially go down in time.

I first used floppy disks then switched to CD copies of my data, then 
switched to DVD, now I simply buy a new harddisk. In the video about the 
economic crash they said somewhere that people simply don't understand 
exponential growth (IIRC), well they don't. Our 24 hour ECG (holter) 
system does not make backups. People accept that because it takes a 

we can not afford that, don't we? We have entered the era where storage 
of a full CT scan is cheaper than the lab results because the latter is 
on paper. If you still have copy machines at work, something has gone 
wrong (we have and it did).


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: It must be friday
Date: 31 Oct 2008 19:40:23
Message: <490b9767$1@news.povray.org>
Gail wrote:
> Sweet. I'm considering picking up a 500GB or 1TB drive while I'm over 

You'll want to hit some sort of "warehouse" type store, aka a "big box" 
store. Some place that would also sell (for example) bare motherboards 
or empty cases. I tried googling appropriate terms, but I couldn't find 
anything like that.  Again, I suggest asking the concierge at the hotel.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Gail
Subject: Re: It must be friday
Date: 1 Nov 2008 04:50:01
Message: <490c1839@news.povray.org>
"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message 
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> Gail wrote:
>> Sweet. I'm considering picking up a 500GB or 1TB drive while I'm over
>
> You'll want to hit some sort of "warehouse" type store, aka a "big box" 
> store. Some place that would also sell (for example) bare motherboards or 
> empty cases. I tried googling appropriate terms, but I couldn't find 
> anything like that.  Again, I suggest asking the concierge at the hotel.

There's a Fry's just outseide of Seattle. Planning on going there.


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: It must be friday
Date: 1 Nov 2008 08:34:29
Message: <490c4cd5@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Guess what? I need to recover some data.
> 
> From March.
> 
> Our backup rotation doesn't go back nearly that far. In other words, if
> there is to be *any hope* of getting that data back, I'm going to have
> to...
> 
> ...undelete files.

Your backup rotation doesn't need to go back to date the file was
created. It just needs to go back to yesterday of the date the file was
*deleted*.

If the file was deleted in March, I'd put my bet on "there's no
possibility for undelete to work".

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
   http://www.zbxt.net
      aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: It must be friday
Date: 1 Nov 2008 08:44:07
Message: <490c4f17@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:

> Your backup rotation doesn't need to go back to date the file was
> created. It just needs to go back to yesterday of the date the file was
> *deleted*.

Correct.

> If the file was deleted in March, I'd put my bet on "there's no
> possibility for undelete to work".

Again... correct. :-D

(Actually, that's not completely true. A few of the files in the project 
were actually undeleted successfuly. But not the ones we had no other 
copies of. Obviously.)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: It must be friday
Date: 1 Nov 2008 12:20:43
Message: <490c81db$1@news.povray.org>
Gail wrote:
> There's a Fry's just outseide of Seattle. Planning on going there.

Cool. That's a good place. I looked on their web site's "store locator" 
and I didn't see anything listed near Seattle, but maybe I'm just blind.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Gail
Subject: Re: It must be friday
Date: 1 Nov 2008 15:15:43
Message: <490caadf@news.povray.org>
"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message 
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> Gail wrote:
>> There's a Fry's just outseide of Seattle. Planning on going there.
>
> Cool. That's a good place. I looked on their web site's "store locator" 
> and I didn't see anything listed near Seattle, but maybe I'm just blind.
>

The store's actually in Renton. If I recall it's about an hour from Seattle 
by bus, that's if you get the schedules right. Otherwise it's an hour by bus 
and an hour waiting for the bus.
http://shop2.frys.com/isp/renton.html


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: It must be friday
Date: 1 Nov 2008 20:02:47
Message: <490cee27$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:22:24 +0200, Gail wrote:

> The store's actually in Renton. If I recall it's about an hour from
> Seattle by bus, that's if you get the schedules right.

Yeah, I'd say that's about right by bus.  By car, obviously, faster (I've 
a friend who lives in Renton who works for the city of Seattle).

Jim


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