Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Since when is .NET actually important? AFAIK, absolutely nobody on Earth 
> actually uses it for any purpose whatsoever. So... why would having a 
> bridge to it be of any signifigance? What am I not seeing here??

  Let me ask you a question: Are your opinions on .NET based on actual
usage experience, or on FUD from indetermined online sources? Do you even
know *what* .NET is? Or are you simply guessing what it might be?

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> Since when is .NET actually important? AFAIK, absolutely nobody on Earth 
> actually uses it for any purpose whatsoever.

Excuse me? Read many programming job ads recently? What are the most 
requested skills?

There are probably more people priogramming for .net (using the various 
languages that compile to it) than for the java virual machine.
Where it changes the game is that now you can write an application, write 
come classes in C#, come in VB, some in Ruby, some in deplhi.net and some in 
Haskell.
What it gives you is an ability to write the parts of the program that 
logically fit in Haskell in Haskett and leave parts (like IO) to a language 
that does that well (like C#)

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> somebody wrote:
>
>> I think you misspelled: It's spelled Haskell, not .NET.
>>
>> But yes, I don't see a significance to the bridge either.
>
> LOL! That's cute...
>
> Now there's an interesting question. Is Haskell rarer than .NET? Is the 
> tiny group of people using Haskell larger or smaller than the tiny group 
> of people using .NET?

Tiny? I don't think so.
Think of everyone writing C#, VB.Net, ASP.net and add in all of the other 
.Net ported languages. Still think it's tiny?

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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
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>  Do you even
> know *what* .NET is? Or are you simply guessing what it might be?
>

I'm guessing, no.

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> Today somebody posted a message anouncing an alpha release of a Haskell to 
> .NET bridge. Somebody reponded with "wow, great work! This could be a real 
> game changer."
>
> I can't help but feel I've missed something important here...
>
> Since when is .NET actually important? AFAIK, absolutely nobody on Earth 
> actually uses it for any purpose whatsoever. So... why would having a 
> bridge to it be of any signifigance? What am I not seeing here??

Hasn't Simon Peyton Jones has been working for MS?
http://www.dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=310

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Gail wrote:

> Excuse me? Read many programming job ads recently? What are the most 
> requested skills?

Generally C, C++, Java, VB, Perl, PHP, in approximately that order.

(Actually, probably the *most* requested skill is "excellent 
communication skills", but that's not what you meant...)

> There are probably more people priogramming for .net (using the various 
> languages that compile to it) than for the java virual machine.

Really? That's interesting.

I've yet to see anything that uses .NET, but finding websites that use 
Java is quite common. (Although I must say, I haven't seen any 
"applications" as such written purely in Java.)

Maybe .NET code is just less "visible" somehow?

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Tim Attwood wrote:

> Hasn't Simon Peyton Jones has been working for MS?

Yeah, several people working on Haskell are employed by MS.

I'm not seeing how this is immediately related to "a .NET bridge for 
Haskell is really useful" though. ;-)

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Warp wrote:

>   Let me ask you a question: Are your opinions on .NET based on actual
> usage experience, or on FUD from indetermined online sources?

I've seen things that use Java. I've never seen anything use .NET. Seems 
like plausible evidence to me.

(I've also seen people talk about Java and various other languages, but 
nobody seems to ever talk about .NET. That, however, might just be a 
result of the people I happen to listen to...)

> Do you even
> know *what* .NET is? Or are you simply guessing what it might be?

As I understand it, it's sorta-kinda like the Java virtual machine + 
library assemblage, except explicitly designed to support multiple 
source-level languages instead of just one. (It wasn't easy to find this 
information, mind you...)

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> I've yet to see anything that uses .NET, but finding websites that use 
> Java is quite common. (Although I must say, I haven't seen any 
> "applications" as such written purely in Java.)

Ever seen anything written in C#? VB.NET? Ever seen any website with .aspx 
pages?

> Maybe .NET code is just less "visible" somehow?

.Net isn't a language. There's no such thing as .net code (unless you're 
talking about the intermediate language that the .net virtual machine runs)

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> As I understand it, it's sorta-kinda like the Java virtual machine + 
> library assemblage, except explicitly designed to support multiple 
> source-level languages instead of just one.

And do you know which source languages talk to it?

> (It wasn't easy to find this information, mind you...)

"The Microsoft .NET Framework is a software technology that is available 
with several Microsoft Windows operating systems. It includes a large 
library of pre-coded solutions to common programming problems and a virtual 
machine that manages the execution of programs written specifically for the 
framework. The .NET Framework is a key Microsoft offering and is intended to 
be used by most new applications created for the Windows platform.

The pre-coded solutions that form the framework's Base Class Library cover a 
large range of programming needs in a number of areas, including user 
interface, data access, database connectivity, cryptography, web application 
development, numeric algorithms, and network communications. The class 
library is used by programmers, who combine it with their own code to 
produce applications.

Programs written for the .NET Framework execute in a software environment 
that manages the program's runtime requirements. Also part of the .NET 
Framework, this runtime environment is known as the Common Language Runtime 
(CLR). The CLR provides the appearance of an application virtual machine so 
that programmers need not consider the capabilities of the specific CPU that 
will execute the program. The CLR also provides other important services 
such as security, memory management, and exception handling. The class 
library and the CLR together compose the .NET Framework."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework

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