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"John VanSickle" <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote
> Invisible wrote:
> > Well, well... It appears one of our employees kept "everything" on a USB
> > flash drive. And guess what? Yah, that's right. Now every time she tries
> > to use that drive, it says the drive isn't formatted.
> > I have no idea why a working drive would suddenly do this...
> It's no longer a working drive, I'd wager.
Techncially, those aren't even "drives".
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Invisible wrote:
> Well, well... It appears one of our employees kept "everything" on a USB
> flash drive. And guess what? Yah, that's right. Now every time she tries
> to use that drive, it says the drive isn't formatted.
Flash drive? Do you really mean flash memory, or just a USB hard disk with
the normal magnetic system?
Flash memory does "wear out". Write cycles are more limited than you may
expect.
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Kyle wrote:
> I'd suggest using ddrescue to (hopefully) image the drive first
Ditto that. Don't use plain dd. The filesystem and other stuff may refuse to
give you data, and I think dd would just halt if a sector is unreadable.
ddrescue continues and tries to copy as much as it can.
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> Of course it's not your fault that you have no respect for software
> developers, it's their own making. The problem with is that academics have
> given away too much for too long,
Also because a lot of computer programmers do it only as a hobby, and as
such they have another source of income so don't mind if they don't get paid
for their hobby work. But I wonder why it is different for other hobbies
like photography, you would never find some unknown person to do your
wedding for free. But people are happy to spend *years* writing code and
then give it away for free to unknown people. Maybe it says more about the
sort of people who program as a hobby.
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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> She might be removing[1] them without removing[2] them.
Yeah, I can see how that might corrupt the filesystem. But badly enough
to render it unreadable? You would think you'd just get a few filesystem
inconsistencies. The error message sounds more like the superblock is
unreadable or something...
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> I had asked questions about using a journaling filesystem and it was
> told. Yes, I could've read the specs but I didn't. So shoot me.
Wear-leveling, anyone?
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Kyle wrote:
>> I'd suggest using ddrescue to (hopefully) image the drive first
>
> Ditto that. Don't use plain dd. The filesystem and other stuff may refuse to
> give you data, and I think dd would just halt if a sector is unreadable.
> ddrescue continues and tries to copy as much as it can.
Online resources claim there's an extra option to dd to make it skip
unreadable blocks.
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>> Dodgy, much?
>
> Yes. Such is life. Bread costs money. Milk costs money. Electricity costs
> money. Coffee costs money. And so *drum roll*, software costs money.
> Programmers are not magicians, they need money to live just like everybody
> else. So what's wrong with *paying* for software? Do you call bakers "dodgy"
> too because they may give you a bite size sample but they don't give you
> whole loaves of bread for free?
No. But if somebody shouts "FREE STUFF!" and then carefully tricks you
into having to actually pay money for it... to me, that's very dodgy.
If stuff costs money then fine. But don't claim something is free when
it isn't. That's deception.
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Invisible wrote:
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> Heh. Apparently she's going to get the IT department at the place her
> boyfriend works for to try to recover it first. Either she thinks I'm
> incompetent, or she's really in a hurry...
>
> Like I said, I don't really care about her plight - she should have kept
> multiple copies - I'm more interested in the interlectual challenge of
> fixing a broken filesystem. ;-)
>
Is it business data, or personal data?
Call me weird, but it frustrates me when a business problem is so easily
taken outside.
Tom
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>> Like I said, I don't really care about her plight - she should have
>> kept multiple copies - I'm more interested in the interlectual
>> challenge of fixing a broken filesystem. ;-)
>
> Is it business data, or personal data?
Apparently it's a mixture of both - from two seperate businesses... o_O
> Call me weird, but it frustrates me when a business problem is so easily
> taken outside.
Yeah.
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