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From: somebody
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 26 Aug 2008 17:13:46
Message: <48b4720a$1@news.povray.org>
"John VanSickle" <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote
> Invisible wrote:

> > Well, well... It appears one of our employees kept "everything" on a USB
> > flash drive. And guess what? Yah, that's right. Now every time she tries
> > to use that drive, it says the drive isn't formatted.

> > I have no idea why a working drive would suddenly do this...

> It's no longer a working drive, I'd wager.

Techncially, those aren't even "drives".


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 26 Aug 2008 18:47:41
Message: <48b4880c@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Well, well... It appears one of our employees kept "everything" on a USB
> flash drive. And guess what? Yah, that's right. Now every time she tries
> to use that drive, it says the drive isn't formatted.

Flash drive? Do you really mean flash memory, or just a USB hard disk with
the normal magnetic system?

Flash memory does "wear out". Write cycles are more limited than you may
expect.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 26 Aug 2008 18:52:58
Message: <48b4894a@news.povray.org>
Kyle wrote:
> I'd suggest using ddrescue to (hopefully) image the drive first

Ditto that. Don't use plain dd. The filesystem and other stuff may refuse to
give you data, and I think dd would just halt if a sector is unreadable.
ddrescue continues and tries to copy as much as it can.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 27 Aug 2008 03:23:24
Message: <48b500ec$1@news.povray.org>
> Of course it's not your fault that you have no respect for software
> developers, it's their own making. The problem with is that academics have
> given away too much for too long,

Also because a lot of computer programmers do it only as a hobby, and as 
such they have another source of income so don't mind if they don't get paid 
for their hobby work.  But I wonder why it is different for other hobbies 
like photography, you would never find some unknown person to do your 
wedding for free.  But people are happy to spend *years* writing code and 
then give it away for free to unknown people.  Maybe it says more about the 
sort of people who program as a hobby.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 27 Aug 2008 03:55:31
Message: <48b50873$1@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:

> She might be removing[1] them without removing[2] them.

Yeah, I can see how that might corrupt the filesystem. But badly enough 
to render it unreadable? You would think you'd just get a few filesystem 
inconsistencies. The error message sounds more like the superblock is 
unreadable or something...

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 27 Aug 2008 03:57:12
Message: <48b508d8$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:

> I had asked questions about using a journaling filesystem and it was 
> told.  Yes, I could've read the specs but I didn't.  So shoot me.

Wear-leveling, anyone?

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 27 Aug 2008 03:58:22
Message: <48b5091e$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Kyle wrote:
>> I'd suggest using ddrescue to (hopefully) image the drive first
> 
> Ditto that. Don't use plain dd. The filesystem and other stuff may refuse to
> give you data, and I think dd would just halt if a sector is unreadable.
> ddrescue continues and tries to copy as much as it can.

Online resources claim there's an extra option to dd to make it skip 
unreadable blocks.

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 27 Aug 2008 04:00:21
Message: <48b50995$1@news.povray.org>
>> Dodgy, much?
> 
> Yes. Such is life. Bread costs money. Milk costs money. Electricity costs
> money. Coffee costs money. And so *drum roll*, software costs money.
> Programmers are not magicians, they need money to live just like everybody
> else. So what's wrong with *paying* for software? Do you call bakers "dodgy"
> too because they may give you a bite size sample but they don't give you
> whole loaves of bread for free?

No. But if somebody shouts "FREE STUFF!" and then carefully tricks you 
into having to actually pay money for it... to me, that's very dodgy.

If stuff costs money then fine. But don't claim something is free when 
it isn't. That's deception.

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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 27 Aug 2008 07:41:21
Message: <48b53d61@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> 
> Heh. Apparently she's going to get the IT department at the place her 
> boyfriend works for to try to recover it first. Either she thinks I'm 
> incompetent, or she's really in a hurry...
> 
> Like I said, I don't really care about her plight - she should have kept 
> multiple copies - I'm more interested in the interlectual challenge of 
> fixing a broken filesystem. ;-)
> 

Is it business data, or personal data?

Call me weird, but it frustrates me when a business problem is so easily 
taken outside.


Tom


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 27 Aug 2008 08:22:01
Message: <48b546e9$1@news.povray.org>
>> Like I said, I don't really care about her plight - she should have 
>> kept multiple copies - I'm more interested in the interlectual 
>> challenge of fixing a broken filesystem. ;-)
> 
> Is it business data, or personal data?

Apparently it's a mixture of both - from two seperate businesses... o_O

> Call me weird, but it frustrates me when a business problem is so easily 
> taken outside.

Yeah.

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