Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   Botox, a neurotoxin, is one of the most poisonous naturally occurring
> > substances in the world, and it is the most toxic protein. It's about
> > one million times more toxic than, for example, strychnine (a common rat
> > poison). Just a few hundred grams of botox would be enough to kill every
> > human on Earth. (0.1 micrograms is enough to kill a person.)
> > 
> >   Yet botox is used as a common cosmetic treatment around the world.

> Have you heard about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO)?

> It has some pretty scary health implications...

  Except that botox is a real neurotoxin.

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"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:39:31 +0100, St. wrote:
>
>>    Woaah. Heavy. Are we breathing this stuff in?
>
> Oh yes,


    Knew it.  :/


but me living here in the desert, I'm breathing in less than you
> probably are.

    Wanna swap houses Jim? Come and live in Beautiful Britain! Heh...  ;)


>
> On a serious note, I know someone whose wife is in jail because of the
> death of their adopted daughter due to a DHMO overdose.  Very sad story.

    Gah, sorry to hear that. So many people, so many problems in this 
world... It's not good.

      ~Steve~


>
> Jim

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:03:38 +0100, St. wrote:
>
>> but me living here in the desert, I'm breathing in less than you
>> probably are.
> 
>     Wanna swap houses Jim? Come and live in Beautiful Britain! Heh... 
>     ;)

I don't recall if I've said it before here, but we have actually thought 
about moving.  And with my wife's medical conditions, actually, the high 
altitude, direct sunlight, and low humidity aggravate those conditions, 
so we are going to *have* to move sooner or later (and sooner would be 
better).



>> On a serious note, I know someone whose wife is in jail because of the
>> death of their adopted daughter due to a DHMO overdose.  Very sad
>> story.
> 
>     Gah, sorry to hear that. So many people, so many problems in this
> world... It's not good.

Yeah.  The situation was (and still is, for that matter) quite unusual.  
Apparently the "punishment" that was used was at the recommendation of a 
therapist.  The way it was administered, though, caused overhydration to 
an extent that it resulted in death.  I also understand there were/are 
some psychological factors with the mother as well, but I don't know all 
the details of that (it's not the sort of thing you ask about in casual 
conversation, and I don't know the husband well enough to engage in even 
casual conversation about much of anything, much less about the death of 
his adopted daughter).

Jim

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St. wrote:

>    Woaah. Heavy. Are we breathing this stuff in?

Perhaps more alarmingly, WE'RE BREATHING IT OUT! ;-)

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:17:58 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> St. wrote:
> 
>>    Woaah. Heavy. Are we breathing this stuff in?
> 
> Perhaps more alarmingly, WE'RE BREATHING IT OUT! ;-)

Oh no!   You're right, we're not merely suffering from it, we're 
contributing to the problem!  Aaaaieeeeeeeee!

Jim

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>> Have you heard about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO)?
> 
>> It has some pretty scary health implications...
> 
>   Except that botox is a real neurotoxin.

And DHMO really *does* kill far more people every year than botox ever will.

Come to mention it, it only takes a gram or two of aspirin to cause some 
pretty damned serious medical problems. Indeed, almost *all* drugs are 
leathally toxic when taken in really quite tiny amounts. (Nibble a few 
foxglove seeds and watch as you go into cardiac arrest. And they *give* 
this stuff to people who have heart problems... go figure!)

Hell, people have been killed by *air* for goodness' sake! o_O

Just about anything can kill you... it's just a question of how likely 
this is.

Did I mention the guy my dad knew? Rolled over in his sleep, a rib 
snapped, and PUNCTURED HIS LUNG! If his wife hadn't been right next to 
him, he'd be dead now. And he was only trying to SLEEP. Sleeping is 
dangerous. Swallowing [and hence eating and drinking] is dangerous. 
Hell, BEING ALIVE is dangerous... It makes you quite paranoid if you 
think about it too much.

Now, if you want something "really" crazy... People drink tea. Tea 
tastes the way it does because of tannins in the leaves. These actually 
don't do the plant any good; it only grows them TO MAKE THE LEAVES TASTE 
BAD so that THINGS WON'T EAT IT. So... we drink tea because it contains 
chemicals to make it "taste bad"... how ****ed up is that?!

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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> Have you heard about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO)?
> > 
> >> It has some pretty scary health implications...
> > 
> >   Except that botox is a real neurotoxin.

> And DHMO really *does* kill far more people every year than botox ever will.

  I don't think 0.1 micrograms of DHMO has ever killed anyone.

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> Hell, BEING ALIVE is dangerous... It makes you quite paranoid if you think 
> about it too much.

that's a fact ..... look at it this way. you've cheated death (if) when you 
wake up the next morning ;-)

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"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:03:38 +0100, St. wrote:
>>
>>> but me living here in the desert, I'm breathing in less than you
>>> probably are.
>>
>>     Wanna swap houses Jim? Come and live in Beautiful Britain! Heh...
>>     ;)
>
> I don't recall if I've said it before here, but we have actually thought
> about moving.  And with my wife's medical conditions, actually, the high
> altitude, direct sunlight, and low humidity aggravate those conditions,
> so we are going to *have* to move sooner or later (and sooner would be
> better).

    Move here? The UK? Apparently, it's a mini New Zealand (country-side 
wise). Just beautiful.


>
>
>
>>> On a serious note, I know someone whose wife is in jail because of the
>>> death of their adopted daughter due to a DHMO overdose.  Very sad
>>> story.
>>
>>     Gah, sorry to hear that. So many people, so many problems in this
>> world... It's not good.
>
> Yeah.  The situation was (and still is, for that matter) quite unusual.
> Apparently the "punishment" that was used was at the recommendation of a
> therapist.  The way it was administered, though, caused overhydration to
> an extent that it resulted in death.  I also understand there were/are
> some psychological factors with the mother as well,


     That last sentence, I can relate to.



but I don't know all
> the details of that (it's not the sort of thing you ask about in casual
> conversation, and I don't know the husband well enough to engage in even
> casual conversation about much of anything, much less about the death of
> his adopted daughter).

    True. It's hard to talk sometimes. It's like being in prison - you don't 
ask your cellmate what he did to be put inside.  <sigh>

      ~Steve~


>
> Jim

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> St. wrote:
>
>>    Woaah. Heavy. Are we breathing this stuff in?
>
> Perhaps more alarmingly, WE'RE BREATHING IT OUT! ;-)

    Really? Good job you're typing this stuff then Andrew.  ;)

      ~Steve~

>
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