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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 13 Jul 2008 22:22:06
Message: <487ab84e$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   Somehow I knew you would convert this into a discussion about religion

By the way... Sorry if I annoyed you with that. It wasn't my intention.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
  Helpful housekeeping hints:
   Check your feather pillows for holes
    before putting them in the washing machine.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 13 Jul 2008 22:53:53
Message: <487abfc1$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:03:15 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Well, it seems to me that this is one of the most common applications
>> of applying a single "good vs. evil" ideology to the world.
> 
> I'm also amused that he quoted the monotheism sentence as an attack on
> religion, rather than the Greek gods, the demons and spirits, or other
> religion-based bits. I was actually thinking at least as much the modern
> Chinese government banning Christianity as well as Fallun Gong (sp?) as
> an "other" kind of thing as I was the Spanish conquistadors.

I found it interesting as well - I guess it's easy to take offense at 
what you're not familiar with, but not to at other things.

Kinda reminds me of Isaac Hayes - he was fine with all the allusions in 
South Park to the problems with religions he didn't believe in, but once 
they went after Scientology, his tolerance was limited.  It's always 
easier to make fun of others than it is yourself, I guess.

Jim


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 14 Jul 2008 03:45:05
Message: <487b0401$1@news.povray.org>
>> At this point, I'm stunned. Zazzle has never managed to do this before.
>> What the hell?
>
>  Give them a break. There are just humans running Zazzle.

Exactly, which is why they should have systems in place to stop mistakes, 
which will happen, getting outside their company.  But I guess that costs 
money so they make some compromise.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 14 Jul 2008 06:11:15
Message: <rh9m74d6mpmogfh44gmcpbr11m8ttf4c2h@4ax.com>
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:18:15 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:

>That's one of the problems with monotheism. When your god is the *only* 
>god, you *obviously* have to do something to fix all the unbelievers. 
>When your gods are the Greek gods, and their gods are the Roman gods, 
>well, when in Rome, do as the Romans do.

<Nitpicking>
The Romans pretty much had the same gods as the Greeks, the names were changed
to protect the innocent. :) 
Also when the Romans were in power Greece was subjective to them and I would
think that they would talk about Jupiter or Jove rather than Zeus to Romans out
of respect.
</Nitpicking>
But I agree with you "One god to rule them all" :)
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     Stephen


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 14 Jul 2008 12:05:08
Message: <487b7934@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> 
> Exactly, which is why they should have systems in place to stop 
> mistakes, which will happen, getting outside their company.  But I guess 
> that costs money so they make some compromise.
> 

Those systems are made by humans, so they are always compromises.

Or why do you think software has bugs and holes? :)

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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 14 Jul 2008 12:06:39
Message: <op.ueahpcwgc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:49:33 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> 
 

did spake, saying:

> Warp wrote:
>
>>   I have always wondered why humanity likes extremes so much.
>
> I guess because seeing the world in black and white is easier than  

> reasoning about shades of grey? It's the only reason I can think of...


On that note I recall reading somewhere a suggestion that it's caused by
  

us thinking in binary - If A = Good then !A = Bad; such that if we'v
e been  

doing A a lot because we think it's good and it turns out not to be we  

automatically turn to !A, because now that must be good :-)

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Phil Cook

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 14 Jul 2008 12:18:06
Message: <487b7c3e@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
> On that note I recall reading somewhere a suggestion that it's caused by  
> us thinking in binary - If A = Good then !A = Bad; such that if we've been  
> doing A a lot because we think it's good and it turns out not to be we  
> automatically turn to !A, because now that must be good :-)

  Actually we think in ternary. The third value is "I don't care", which
sometimes also causes problems when taken to an extreme.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 14 Jul 2008 12:19:44
Message: <487b7c9f@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> Or why do you think software has bugs and holes? :)

  There are small critters inside computers which dig these holes and
are infested with these bugs, parasites and other diseases. Where do you
think "computer virus" comes from?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 14 Jul 2008 12:30:48
Message: <487b7f38$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   There are small critters inside computers which dig these holes and
> are infested with these bugs, parasites and other diseases. Where do you
> think "computer virus" comes from?

So ... does that explain why when I sneezed on my keyboard and monitor, 
my system started belching out loads and loads of ads for fake rolex 
watches and cialis?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 14 Jul 2008 13:57:00
Message: <487b936c@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:

> >   There are small critters inside computers which dig these holes and
> > are infested with these bugs, parasites and other diseases. Where do you
> > think "computer virus" comes from?

> So ... does that explain why when I sneezed on my keyboard and monitor, 
> my system started belching out loads and loads of ads for fake rolex 
> watches and cialis?

  No, that's just those damned haxorz hacking at your computer.

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                                                          - Warp


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