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http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/04/g8-set-create-piracy-laws
Here's the scary part:
"The agreement calls for border measures to control international
piracy, including the authority for customs authorities to halt
suspected intellectual property rights-infringing goods."
The key word is suspected. In other words, if they *think* something
might be stolen, but they don't have proof, they can stop it and inspect it.
...Chambers
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Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguy com> wrote:
> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/04/g8-set-create-piracy-laws
> Here's the scary part:
> "The agreement calls for border measures to control international
> piracy, including the authority for customs authorities to halt
> suspected intellectual property rights-infringing goods."
> The key word is suspected. In other words, if they *think* something
> might be stolen, but they don't have proof, they can stop it and inspect it.
Countless scifi novels from around the middle of the last century
envisioned worldwide totalitarian governments which would control and
oppress all of its citizens with an iron hand. In these envisioned worlds
things like privacy are more or less criminal.
Little did these authors know the exact reason why this will indeed
happen. Not because of some dictator raising to power, not because of
megacorporations overthrowing governments (although this one is pretty
close), but because of one little concept commonly called "intellectual
property".
Money is nothing, wealth is nothing, power is nothing, intellectual
property is everything. Entire world wars have been fought because of
money, wealth or power, but the ultimate demise of the civilized world
will be something rather different: Intellectual property.
All hail the Holy Copyright!
--
- Warp
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Chambers wrote:
> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/04/g8-set-create-piracy-laws
>
>
> Here's the scary part:
> "The agreement calls for border measures to control international
> piracy, including the authority for customs authorities to halt
> suspected intellectual property rights-infringing goods."
>
> The key word is suspected. In other words, if they *think* something
> might be stolen, but they don't have proof, they can stop it and inspect
> it.
Since they can already claim to suspect smuggling of other contraband
and stop the shipment to inspect it for that reason, this does not grant
any substantial increase to the powers of customs officials. It
wouldn't surprise me to learn that most nations have empowered their
customs officials to make random searches as well.
What's being addressed here is an agreement to stop the importation of
pirated DVDs and CDs, and cheap knock-offs of fashion goods with
counterfeit logos attached.
Regards,
John
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When I first read the subject line for this message, I thought it might
be about what's happening to Mark Steyn in Canada's Orwellianly-named
Human Rights Tribunals.
Regards,
John
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John VanSickle wrote:
> When I first read the subject line for this message, I thought it might
> be about what's happening to Mark Steyn in Canada's Orwellianly-named
> Human Rights Tribunals.
>
> Regards,
> John
I hadn't even heard of this. Googling now...
...Chambers
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John VanSickle wrote:
> When I first read the subject line for this message, I thought it might
> be about what's happening to Mark Steyn in Canada's Orwellianly-named
> Human Rights Tribunals.
>
> Regards,
> John
Now, THAT is scary stuff. A tribunal system, separate from the courts,
which only has to allege (not prove) that some crime might in the future
be committed, and has the authority to seize your property (the articles
I found mentioned computers, not sure what else they can seize) w/o a
warrant.
All paid for by the taxpayer, of course. The claimant doesn't have to
pay a dime; of course, the defendant has to pay their full legal costs.
...Chambers
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Chambers wrote:
> John VanSickle wrote:
>> When I first read the subject line for this message, I thought it
>> might be about what's happening to Mark Steyn in Canada's
>> Orwellianly-named Human Rights Tribunals.
>
> Now, THAT is scary stuff. A tribunal system, separate from the courts,
> which only has to allege (not prove) that some crime might in the future
> be committed, and has the authority to seize your property (the articles
> I found mentioned computers, not sure what else they can seize) w/o a
> warrant.
>
> All paid for by the taxpayer, of course. The claimant doesn't have to
> pay a dime; of course, the defendant has to pay their full legal costs.
They've learned their lesson from history: Go after people who don't
enjoy a whole lot of sympathy and you can rack up a high body count
before anybody notices.
Regards,
John
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> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/04/g8-set-create-piracy-laws
>
> Here's the scary part:
> "The agreement calls for border measures to control international piracy,
> including the authority for customs authorities to halt suspected
> intellectual property rights-infringing goods."
>
> The key word is suspected. In other words, if they *think* something
> might be stolen, but they don't have proof, they can stop it and inspect
> it.
And then if they can't get any proof they let it go. They already do this
so don't see the problem. Border controls are a special case, because once
they let the person/goods into/out of the country it is then very difficult
to prove if something illegal took place. If they needed absolute proof
before stopping anyone or anything, then nothing would ever get ceased and
the smugglers would have a field day!
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