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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> (damn, you're fast - but I might be faster)
Too Fast & Too Curious. ;-)
>> ...which isn't the same as SAYING IT OUT LOUD, because writing it down
>> makes it completely unambiguous that you're talking about an
>> electronics product. ;-)
>
> More like on the internet more people will read it than ever could hear
> you say it out loud once :p.
I was more concerned about the extreme ambiguity of the name Wii when
uttered out loud - but yeah, I guess nobody listens to *me* anyway. :-P
>> Wait - they *added* the wristband?
>
> Yes.
>
>> As in, it wasn't there initially?
>
> Yep :).
>
>> Oh dear. ;-)
>
> Rumours tell that casualties inhold a lot of TV's ;).
Ooooohhhh dear god!
I'm sure You Tube has video evidence. ;-)
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethis zbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> >
> > Ah. I was wondering why everybody is so excited about the iPhone. (Is it
> > because it has an "i" in the name? I'm still waiting for Apple's
> > intelligent vacuum cleaner, the "iSuck". :-P )
> It's a incredible product from Apple - afaik it doesn't have even the
> one button Apple is famous of! And still it's a telephone, beat that if
> you can.
Actually it does have one button. But that's about the only button it has.
IMO the iPhone is rather innovative. Before the iPhone you had basically
just two options for smartphones: Either ones with the standard phone
12-key keyboard (plus a few), where writing anything was a big pain in the
ass, or ones with a lot of space wasted for a full-fledged qwerty keyboard
(although the Nokia E70 style of keyboarded phone does this a bit more
efficiently).
So the people at Apple thought: Why waste valuable space for a full-fledged
physical qwerty keyboard when that space could be used for the actual
*display* of the phone, and a fully *customizable* qwerty keyboard could
be used on that display?
There are obvious advantages: The keyboard layout and contents is not
fixed (as it inevitably is with a physical keyboard) but can be customized
on a per-application basis. And, most importantly, the keyboard doesn't
take any space *at all* when it's not needed. That space can be used for
whatever you want because it's just a display. A rather enormous one.
IMO Apple has taken a significant step in phone innovation, which others
will certainly soon follow. (And, not surprisingly, Nokia and a bunch of
others have already announced their own versions of touchscreen-only
phones.)
People often have prejudices against the touch screen in the iPhone,
but that's because they have never tried it.
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> IMO the iPhone is rather innovative. Before the iPhone you had basically
> just two options for smartphones: Either ones with the standard phone
> 12-key keyboard (plus a few), where writing anything was a big pain in the
> ass, or ones with a lot of space wasted for a full-fledged qwerty keyboard
> (although the Nokia E70 style of keyboarded phone does this a bit more
> efficiently).
>
> So the people at Apple thought: Why waste valuable space for a full-fledged
> physical qwerty keyboard when that space could be used for the actual
> *display* of the phone, and a fully *customizable* qwerty keyboard could
> be used on that display?
>
> There are obvious advantages: The keyboard layout and contents is not
> fixed (as it inevitably is with a physical keyboard) but can be customized
> on a per-application basis. And, most importantly, the keyboard doesn't
> take any space *at all* when it's not needed. That space can be used for
> whatever you want because it's just a display. A rather enormous one.
>
> IMO Apple has taken a significant step in phone innovation, which others
> will certainly soon follow. (And, not surprisingly, Nokia and a bunch of
> others have already announced their own versions of touchscreen-only
> phones.)
On the other hand, there are equally obvious disadvantages. [That they
are obvious doesn't necessarily mean they're important of course.]
You now have fingerprints all over your viewing area. Good luck cleaning
skin oil off a plastic display. ;-)
You get no tactile feedback from the "keyboard". Various HCI studies
have showed that this is a very important factor. [I would imagine you
could easily provide audible feedback - maybe the iPhone does this? -
but it wouldn't be as good as being able to "feel" when you've pressed a
key, or when your fingers are correctly aligned to the keys.]
But certainly - for such a small device - it has undeniable advantages.
As a matter of fact, my sat nav device uses a similar on-screen
keyboard. While it's a little slow to operate, it's not *too* bad... The
key [pun!] is to make the keys big enough to hit reliably. Not all
products manage this.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Eero Ahonen wrote:
>> (damn, you're fast - but I might be faster)
Nope, I wasn't - 5mins against your 3.
> Too Fast & Too Curious. ;-)
Yep ;).
> I was more concerned about the extreme ambiguity of the name Wii when
> uttered out loud - but yeah, I guess nobody listens to *me* anyway. :-P
Aaaah yess.. An old joke nowadays, I just didn't catch it.
>> Rumours tell that casualties inhold a lot of TV's ;).
>
> Ooooohhhh dear god!
>
> I'm sure You Tube has video evidence. ;-)
If you'll find some, throw a link :).
--
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid
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Warp wrote:
>
> Actually it does have one button. But that's about the only button it has.
Power button? I was actually wondering this, but I though Apple would
make it "hip" to lack one :p.
> IMO the iPhone is rather innovative. Before the iPhone you had basically
> just two options for smartphones: Either ones with the standard phone
Yes, it is. It still is lacking some features, though, but it really is
something different than anything before it.
For me the worst part would be the marriage it has for one operator. I
do use Sonera's network here in Finland (it's the only one to provide
enough access for me), but I still don't want a phone that can't operate
on some other network. The other ones would be the complete lack of
keyboard (yes, I like the 12-button one, and that's just my opinion) and
the fact that it's a smartphone (it has a lot of features, being also a
pda and still being PITA while lacking configurability and some
options). Not that I'd want a S60 -phone any more than iPhone, they are
one arses to use, if you ask me. OTOH I might be forced to change
sometime soon, since my 6310i is wearing out, even though it ain't even
5 years old yet.
>
> People often have prejudices against the touch screen in the iPhone,
> but that's because they have never tried it.
>
To be honest, that would be the first touchscreen ever that would be
daily-usable in something as intensive as telephone I've ever touched.
It doesn't mean it's impossible - it just means I'm very, *very*
skeptical about a touchscreen.
--
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> No I don't, but... what's so great about an Xbox?
>>
>> Hype. Same with the iPhone, same with the Wii, same with the Playstation,
>> etc
>
> Ah. I was wondering why everybody is so excited about the iPhone. (Is it
> because it has an "i" in the name? I'm still waiting for Apple's
> intelligent vacuum cleaner, the "iSuck". :-P )
>
> As for the Wii... Apart from the obviously ridiculous name, I think it's
> an "interesting" concept. But when I tried to play with my sister's
> boyfriend's Wii [do NOT say this out loud in public!] it just made my
> arm hurt [do NOT include this part in public either!!]
>
> Seriously - the centrifugal forces just make the veins in my hand
> overpressure. And my wrist hurt.
>
Don't swing so hard, it maxes out at 3Gs.
> I wonder... surely there have been some pretty serious injuries /
> property damage due to the Wii, no?
>
No injuries, thankfully. I think we only had one person slip while
playing Tennis, and bowling in socks on a hardwood floor is just asking
to learn to do splits. I can just imagine someone going to the doctor
with a sprained wrist or elbow . . .
Doc: "What have you been doing that might have caused this?"
Patient: "Well, I've just been playing with my Wii."
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>> Seriously - the centrifugal forces just make the veins in my hand
>> overpressure. And my wrist hurt.
>
>
> Don't swing so hard, it maxes out at 3Gs.
Oh *now* you tell me!
Actually, the one that got me was the boxing. No matter how you wave the
controller around, my character remains motionless. I can't figure that
out...
>> I wonder... surely there have been some pretty serious injuries /
>> property damage due to the Wii, no?
>>
>
> No injuries, thankfully. I think we only had one person slip while
> playing Tennis, and bowling in socks on a hardwood floor is just asking
> to learn to do splits.
Heh. Too true!
But when girls do the splits, it looks sexy. When guys do it, it just
looks awkward and painful. [Which it is...]
A bit like dancing, I guess?
> I can just imagine someone going to the doctor
> with a sprained wrist or elbow . . .
> Doc: "What have you been doing that might have caused this?"
> Patient: "Well, I've just been playing with my Wii."
Yeah - there are *so* many ways that one product name can get you weird
looks. [Although possibly not from a doctor - surely they've already
seen half a dozen people who did the same thing, or worse!]
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:45:08 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>
>> http://www.bash.org/?587801 WTH?
>
> Do you know what Black Friday is?
Assuming that I still work in retail sales come the last Friday in
November, I shall experience seven hours of it first hand. (I work in
retail sales.)
Regards,
John
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"Eero Ahonen" <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote in message
news:4856c1f6@news.povray.org...
> > Oh dear. ;-)
>
> Rumours tell that casualties inhold a lot of TV's ;).
I've heard of TV casualties from the wrist band snapping. LCDs and Plasmas.
The glass on a CRT is usually strong enough to survive,
I have to wonder what kind of force is necessary to get it to snap. It
seemed pretty secure the few times I've played.
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:09:04 +0200, Gail Shaw sa dot com>
<"<initialsurname"@sentech> wrote:
> I've heard of TV casualties from the wrist band snapping. LCDs and
> Plasmas.
> The glass on a CRT is usually strong enough to survive,
> I have to wonder what kind of force is necessary to get it to snap. It
> seemed pretty secure the few times I've played.
The strap on the earlier models was weaker than the current one. When the
damage reports started trickling in, they redesigned it.
--
FE
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