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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 11:53:41
Message: <48495d85$1@news.povray.org>
>> Well they recon Oaks live up to 600 years or more... On the other hand,
>> being "indoors" is not a natural condition for such an organism. (!)
> 
> It's not entirely indoors, though - the sky looks pretty apparent in the 
> photo....?

Sure. There's sky above it. It's just that it's otherwise surrounded by 
marble. And except when the Sun is exactly overhead, little sunlight 
shines directly onto it. (Though obviously the near-white marble 
reflects quite a bit...) I'd hazard that it probably doesn't get much 
water either, since most of the ground is under marble.

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 12:04:50
Message: <48496022@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:53:20 +0100, Invisible wrote:

>>> Well they recon Oaks live up to 600 years or more... On the other
>>> hand, being "indoors" is not a natural condition for such an organism.
>>> (!)
>> 
>> It's not entirely indoors, though - the sky looks pretty apparent in
>> the photo....?
> 
> Sure. There's sky above it. It's just that it's otherwise surrounded by
> marble. And except when the Sun is exactly overhead, little sunlight
> shines directly onto it. (Though obviously the near-white marble
> reflects quite a bit...) I'd hazard that it probably doesn't get much
> water either, since most of the ground is under marble.

I've seen this kind of arrangement before, and the tree has seemed to do 
quite well.  Direct sunlight isn't a 100% requirement for some types of 
trees, and I imagine there is an irrigation system in place to deliver 
water in sufficient quantities.

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 12:56:31
Message: <48496c3f@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Does anybody *else* think this tree is going to be dead soon?

Folks do things like that all the time on the east coast of the USA. The 
trees are quite happy with the arrangement, having humans taking care of 
them.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 12:57:26
Message: <48496c76@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> And except when the Sun is exactly overhead, little sunlight 
> shines directly onto it.

  That's an exaggeration.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 14:18:32
Message: <rovi449sbefa90i1v0gcd5bh8kjpjn7qfj@4ax.com>
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:53:20 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Sure. There's sky above it. It's just that it's otherwise surrounded by 
>marble. And except when the Sun is exactly overhead, little sunlight 
>shines directly onto it. (Though obviously the near-white marble 
>reflects quite a bit...) I'd hazard that it probably doesn't get much 
>water either, since most of the ground is under marble.

How do trees manage to live in crouded forrests, then?  

Plus, there's radiosity.  :-P


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From: somebody
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 14:26:14
Message: <48498146$1@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/MK_MidsummerPlace_OakCourt01.JPG

> Does anybody *else* think this tree is going to be dead soon?

Many people think weird things, so yes, probably. My guess, however, would
be that it will well outlast all of us here.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 14:36:46
Message: <484983be$1@news.povray.org>
>> And except when the Sun is exactly overhead, little sunlight 
>> shines directly onto it.
> 
>   That's an exaggeration.

Well, the picture doesn't really show it, but the cylinder is quite 
tall, so there's little direct illumination at the very bottom except 
for a narrow range of Sun angles.

Of course, the marble is quite light in colour, so there's plenty of 
ambient light... I'm not sure how fussy Oak is about this sort of thing.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 14:43:53
Message: <l91j449f4fqkoa6i37a4crrq352h1q38qa@4ax.com>
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:46:09 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/MK_MidsummerPlace_OakCourt01.JPG
>
>Does anybody *else* think this tree is going to be dead soon?

That is palatial compared to what trees get in city streets.
Real cities, I mean. :)
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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 7 Jun 2008 18:02:36
Message: <484b057c$1@news.povray.org>
Kyle wrote:

> 
> Plus, there's radiosity.  :-P
LOL!


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 8 Jun 2008 04:43:25
Message: <484b9bad@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/MK_MidsummerPlace_OakCourt01.JPG 
> 
> 
> Does anybody *else* think this tree is going to be dead soon?

There is probably someone else, but I'm not one of them.  The tree 
appears to have enough root space to support itself.  The open spot 
roughly matches the extent of the tree's branches.  A lot of the run-off 
from the open court may be going to the tree, and it's not competing 
with any other trees.

Regards,
John


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