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"stbenge" <stb### [at] hotmail com> wrote in message
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> St. wrote:
>> My electricity and gas prices have soared bigtime recently, as well as
>> many other things like food, petrol, etc.
>
> Our electricity here in the mountains is produced from hydrokinetics, so
> no problems there (apart from the occasional grid fault). Gas on the other
> hand, just keeps getting more expensive. I'd love to just take a jaunt
> into town and get what I need, but alas, doing so costs $5-$8 round trip
> :/ I sorely need a book from the library....
Nothing online?
>
>> I think I said this here a few years ago, but something is not going
>> to be good soon. Tighten your seatbelts, and enjoy the ride.
>>
>> If I ever meet any PoVers through the smoke and rubble, don't kill
>> me, ok? I'm on your side.
>
> Kill you, I'd probably hire you to make a wedding ring from mined platinum
> or something :)
Well, if that was the case Sam, I would be truly honoured to make your
ring/s. :)
~Steve~
>
> Sam
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"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47e2bcab$1@news.povray.org...
>> My electricity and gas prices have soared bigtime recently, as well as
> many
>> other things like food, petrol, etc.
>
> Yup. Petrol's up over 1 Rand/litre so far this year, and now the
> electricity
> company wants to raise prices by 60%. This is while they're cutting off
> power to areas 2-3 times a week.
>
> Oh well, it could be worse.
:oO 60%! I didn't know that. That's bad news. :o/
~Steve~
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"Tim Cook" <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message
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> *rawr* Brains... *shamble shamble*
LOL! :)
~Steve~
>
> --
> Tim Cook
> http://empyrean.digitalartsuk.com
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:59:09 +0100, Vincent Le Chevalier
<gal### [at] libertyALLsurfSPAMfr> wrote:
>But this cannot work...
What you probably don't know is that where St lives, is a large supply
of magic mushrooms. That and it is near where Merlin laid his head
down.
So all is possible. :)
Even perpetual motion.
Crongrats St you are the one hundred and first this year :)
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Regards
Stephen
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47e3be7f$1@news.povray.org...
> Ah well, that would explain why it hasn't been done yet, but I still
> think that with our great engineering brains, it 'might' be possible.
As Gail said, not without breaking the laws of thermodynamics as we
understand them, so it would require a little more than engineering brains.
However, this never stopped people to create "perpetual" motion engines that
were always eventually proved to be either hoaxes/scams, or genuine but not
working, or working but not actually perpetual (i.e. requiring an external
energy source to work).
G.
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47e3be7e$1@news.povray.org...
>
> Well, ok, but what if the back springs were just rewound by the drive of
> forward motion (and not from the front two springs) anyway?
You'd still get less energy (a lot less) back into the spring. Basically
Energy from unwinding spring = energy converted into forward motion + energy
stored back in spring + energy converted to heat.
(or in physics terms)
Energy added to system = Delta (kinetic energy) + Delta(potential energy) +
heat
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47e3be7f$1@news.povray.org...
>
> Ah well, that would explain why it hasn't been done yet, but I still
> think that with our great engineering brains, it 'might' be possible.
It's not a failing of engineering. It's a limitation of the laws of physics.
It's no more possible than travelling faster than light or creating matter
out of thin air. In fact, it's less possible than both of those (which
theoretically do occur under strange circumstances)
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47e3be80$2@news.povray.org...
>
> > Oh well, it could be worse.
>
> :oO 60%! I didn't know that. That's bad news. :o/
Well, currently SA has about the cheapest electricity in the world, so isn't
as bad as it sounds. The regular blackouts are far more of a problem.
From what I hear, if they do hike the price that much, our electricity will
be around the same price as in Canada.
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"Gilles Tran" <gil### [at] agroparistechfr> wrote in message
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> 47e3be7f$1@news.povray.org...
>
>> Ah well, that would explain why it hasn't been done yet, but I still
>> think that with our great engineering brains, it 'might' be possible.
>
> As Gail said, not without breaking the laws of thermodynamics as we
> understand them, so it would require a little more than engineering
> brains.
> However, this never stopped people to create "perpetual" motion engines
> that were always eventually proved to be either hoaxes/scams, or genuine
> but not working, or working but not actually perpetual (i.e. requiring an
> external energy source to work).
Yes, I've just done a little reading about PMM's and thermodynamics was
mentioned quite a lot. I don't know, I can see that yes, there would be a
problem with heat, but what about other materials? I know that PTFE is one
of the slipperiest plastics out there, but then of course, you wouldn't have
the strength.
By the way, I think I remember on an old Tomorrows World program (late
70's?) that an oil-less car engine had been produced, (still needed petrol
per unit. I wonder what happened to that?
~Steve~
>
> G.
>
>
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> http://www.oyonale.com
> *****************************
> - Graphic experiments
> - POV-Ray, Cinema 4D and Poser computer images
> - Posters
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"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message
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>
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47e3be7f$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>> Ah well, that would explain why it hasn't been done yet, but I
>> still
>> think that with our great engineering brains, it 'might' be possible.
>
> It's not a failing of engineering. It's a limitation of the laws of
> physics.
> It's no more possible than travelling faster than light or creating matter
> out of thin air. In fact, it's less possible than both of those (which
> theoretically do occur under strange circumstances)
Yes, to me as a non-scientific person, I'm thinking that this is, and
should be, achievable/possible, but alas, something that *seems* so simple,
is clearly not the case.
Back to the PoV drawing board, methinks. Good little debate.
~Steve~
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