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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:37:15 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Heh. Even *I* have heard of the iPhone. (Although I couldn't tell you
> what's supposed to be so great about it. Presumably the fact that it's
> shiny...)
It has scrolling capability...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddnZQh2-wTA
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FE
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Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote:
> Say somebody gives you a videogame as a gift. He paid for it, it's a
> legal copy. And the physical media has some problem. If it's a
> manufacturing defect, of course you could get it back from the game
> company under warranty. But say you lost the disc, or your CD drive
> broke it, or your dog ate it. Are you legally entitled to download it
> off the Internet, or rip a friend's copy?
Without a written license that proves you have the right to use the
software? Probably not.
> Like I said on the last paragraph of my first post, I didn't buy the
> iPod. The iPod had those apps when it reached my hands, and I'd guess
> Sun Learning Services got them legally.
Maybe you could ask them?
> > Of course it may be that getting the software back is part of the
> > warranty, which you voided by hacking the device...
> Note I didn't lose them by hacking the device. All I did was downgrade
> the firmware
That may be considered the same thing. :P
> > OTOH, is 20 dollars really that much money?
> What if I had paid for the iPod and the
> apps, and lost the apps for some reason, would I have to buy them again?
I'm sure they would reinstall them at the shop as part of the warranty.
They do that all the time with cellphones.
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- Warp
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
<snip> ...
> Plus, paying to get the apps is nowhere near as *fun* as hacking my way
> around it :]
Thank $DEITY for people like you. As my sig used to say (in part):
Run Fast
Run Free
John
--
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>
>>> iPod touch runs OS X, has 128MB of RAM, a 620MHz ARM CPU underclocked to
>>> 412MHz,
>
>> That seems a little overkill just for a simple MP3 player...
>
> It's a PDA, not an MP3 player.
An exceptionally poor one, tho, given that it doesn't have basic
functionality like to-do lists.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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> Actually, I *could* check my email from it, can't anymore. I lost the
> mail app (along with others) on my first failed attempt at jailbreaking.
> I won't be paying 20 bucks for the "app pack" to get stuff I already
> had, so I'll see if there is some h4x0r way to get them back.
>
> And in fact, the iPod touch has those apps (I know it because I have
> extracted the disk image from the firmware). The so-called app pack
> probably just "unlocks" them.
Current status:
- Firmware 1.1.3, successfully jailbroken.
- Installer.app[1] and Cydia[2] (a port of Debian's APT!). The latter
proving how much the former sucks[3].
- Mail, Maps, Weather, Notes, Stocks, and ability to customize home
screen. For free. All I had to do was install "iPod touch software
update" package (from a non-standard package source) after getting
1.1.3. [Note to self: figure out how to get rid of Stocks icon]
- A working ssh, with bash and GNU userland. Which was installed along
with Cydia. Much better[4] than the "BSD Subsystem" available on Installer.
- Still no working povray.
- Quite dirty touchscreen.
- Jailbreak-related files scattered on my computer (bad habit of
downloading and extracting on the nearest convenient directory). Gotta
clean that up.
[1] http://iphone.nullriver.com/
[2] http://cydia.saurik.com/
[3] http://www.saurik.com/id/2
[4] http://www.saurik.com/id/1, section "BSD Subsystem"
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> > It's a PDA, not an MP3 player.
> An exceptionally poor one, tho, given that it doesn't have basic
> functionality like to-do lists.
Ok, it's a multimedia-oriented PDA. :P
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- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> Ok, it's a multimedia-oriented PDA. :P
Heh. Is there any actual difference between a PDA and a PIM, or is it
just two marketing phrases for the same thing?
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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Darren New wrote:
>
> An exceptionally poor one, tho, given that it doesn't have basic
> functionality like to-do lists.
>
It's Apple, it doesn't need features to be cool.
--
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid
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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> It's Apple, it doesn't need features to be cool.
>:3
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http://empyrean.digitalartsuk.com
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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> It's Apple, it doesn't need features to be cool.
QOTW!
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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