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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Hysterical confusers
Date: 23 Feb 2008 04:40:28
Message: <47bfea0c@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> I don't, and I'm sure it does work, but the memory requirements are 
> typically higher for the newer kernels, so an older kernel is often 
> preferred.

  I believe that the memory requirements for new kernels are higher
only if you compile *everything* into it. Being a monolithic kernel,
it has tons and tons and tons of device drivers, and each version of
the kernel has more and more of them.

  However, I think it's possible to compile the kernel so that it's
optimized for the target platform, with everything unneeded removed.
This reduces the size of the kernel considerably because unneeded drivers
are not included.

  After all, 2.6 has been used for embedded systems.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Hysterical confusers
Date: 23 Feb 2008 05:53:44
Message: <47bffb37@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Doctor John <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > In amongst the detritus I found a Toshiba T-1850 laptop.

>   It seems to be a 386, so linux should install just fine.

  What you can try is to take a live linux distro which fits in a floppy
disk and try booting with that. That way you can test how it works.
Something like:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_Linux
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LEAF_Project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fli4l
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomsrtbt

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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Hysterical confusers
Date: 23 Feb 2008 08:54:33
Message: <47c02599$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> I don't, and I'm sure it does work, but the memory requirements are 
>> typically higher for the newer kernels, so an older kernel is often 
>> preferred.
<snip> ...
>   However, I think it's possible to compile the kernel so that it's
> optimized for the target platform, with everything unneeded removed.
> This reduces the size of the kernel considerably because unneeded drivers
> are not included.
> 
>   After all, 2.6 has been used for embedded systems.
> 
Thinking about it you're probably right. I'm making a start on the job
tomorrow evening. Can't do it this p.m. due to 6 Nations and tomorrow
afternoon there's a rather important match between Chelsea and some
obscure team from North London :-) (In case you haven't guessed I'm a
Chelsea supporter)
Of course when we win I'll be in no fit state to do anything remotely
techy so Monday evening then.

John

-- 
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Hysterical confusers
Date: 23 Feb 2008 08:56:14
Message: <47c025fe$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
<snip> ...
>   What you can try is to take a live linux distro which fits in a floppy
> disk and try booting with that. That way you can test how it works.
> Something like:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_Linux
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LEAF_Project
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fli4l
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomsrtbt
> 
Thanks for those links

John

-- 
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Hysterical confusers
Date: 23 Feb 2008 16:12:34
Message: <47c08c42$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:40:28 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> I don't, and I'm sure it does work, but the memory requirements are
>> typically higher for the newer kernels, so an older kernel is often
>> preferred.
> 
>   I believe that the memory requirements for new kernels are higher
> only if you compile *everything* into it. Being a monolithic kernel, it
> has tons and tons and tons of device drivers, and each version of the
> kernel has more and more of them.
> 
>   However, I think it's possible to compile the kernel so that it's
> optimized for the target platform, with everything unneeded removed.
> This reduces the size of the kernel considerably because unneeded
> drivers are not included.
> 
>   After all, 2.6 has been used for embedded systems.

True, I'm just remembering that the low memory footprint stuff typically 
has used older kernels.

Jim


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