Invisible escribió:
> [Well, I mean obviously it's a massively-multiplayer online role-playing 
> game. But what the hell does that even mean anyway?]

I heard it also stands for "Mostly Men Online Role Playing Girls" and 
"Massively Monotonous Online Repetitive Perpetual Gaming".

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Invisible wrote:
> Here's a better one: Name two other software companies [that anybody has 
> heard of]. ;-)

Anybody? Or someone who doesn't know who Richard Stallman and Steve Jobs 
are? ;-)

Seriously, name any other company at all in any product range that 
pushes other people's products. It's actually a rather big selling point 
that the "Progressive" insurance company in the USA will actually give 
you quotes for other insurance companies along with theirs. That's the 
only one I can think of.

Does Ford keep a few toyotas on the lot for you to test-drive too? Does 
your local food store keep a section set aside for other food stores to 
offer free samples? Does your bank have other banks' ATMs or brochures 
by the counter?

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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     On what day did God create the body thetans?

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Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Blizzard
> 
>> ...who?
> 
>   In my books you have stopped being a computer nerd from this moment
> forward.

LOL!  OK, now I have to look like I'm working for a while...  Everyone 
is wondering what I'm laughing at during a Linux reinstall...

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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     On what day did God create the body thetans?

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> Invisible wrote:
>> Here's a better one: Name two other software companies [that anybody 
>> has heard of]. ;-)
> 
> Anybody? Or someone who doesn't know who Richard Stallman and Steve Jobs 
> are? ;-)

Does Canonical count as a software company? I think it does.

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Darren New wrote:
> Does Ford keep a few toyotas on the lot for you to test-drive too?

no, but Toyotas and Fords are built from standard industrial mechanical 
components.

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nemesis wrote:

> no, but Toyotas and Fords are built from standard industrial mechanical 
> components.

So ... I can just simply drop a Ford engine into a Toyota? or use a 
steering wheel from a Corolla in a Focus? I had no idea...

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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:36:05 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I just try not to spend time on things that don't interest me. [I  
> thought everybody else did too...]

The problem is that you seem to be interested in so very few things.


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Mike Raiford wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> 
>> no, but Toyotas and Fords are built from standard industrial 
>> mechanical components.
> 
> So ... I can just simply drop a Ford engine into a Toyota? or use a 
> steering wheel from a Corolla in a Focus? I had no idea...

no, but those are built out of pretty much all the same components.

Like I said about OpenGL, it's not a "competitor's product", it's a 
standard API well known in the industry with several different 
implementations, including from M$.  It's the blueprints of an engine, 
not the engine.

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nemesis wrote:
> It's not the "competitors' software", it's an industry-strength API.

It's a floor polish! It's a salad dressing!  But wait, it's both!

Do you think that OpenGL isn't a competitor to DirectX? Do you think 
that DirectX isn't a reason some people buy or develop for Windows?

> They could provider their own implementation,

Like they did with Java, and got sued?

> but regardless of MS participating of
> standards bodies like the W3C, they just choose to turn it down in favour of
> their proprietary incompatible "standards".

Is OpenGL unavailable for Windows?  What, really, is the problem?

> Supporting industry-strength standards should only be a good thing.

They support it. There's a wide difference between "supporting" and 
"providing free as part of a download of a compiler."

> something major players in the industry agreed are a good thing.  It's
> something consumers would agree to be a good thing if only the most used
> platform more actively supported it,

OpenGL runs fine on Windows. It just isn't included by default in MS's 
free compiler download. If you want support for it, buy it.

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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     On what day did God create the body thetans?

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> Do you think that OpenGL isn't a competitor to DirectX? Do you think 
> that DirectX isn't a reason some people buy or develop for Windows?

No. OpenGL and DirectX can't be compared. OpenGL and Direct3D (one of 
the many components of DirectX), ok that could be :)

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