Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> wrote:
> >"I wouldn't recognise any of the others", the other being Beethoven and Mozart.
> >Come on!  Even the chinese behind the Great Wall know Beethoven and Mozart!!
>
> Sadly this view is all too common in Britain :(

I thought so.  Perhaps just Elgar, Handel, Johann Christian Bach, Haydn and a
few others who actually went to England are appreciated, which is a shame.
Perhaps the British should come out of their hobbit-holes more often and see
what a big world full of wonders it is out there...

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nemesis wrote:
> Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> wrote:
>>> "I wouldn't recognise any of the others", the other being Beethoven and Mozart.
>>> Come on!  Even the chinese behind the Great Wall know Beethoven and Mozart!!
>> Sadly this view is all too common in Britain :(
> 
> I thought so.  Perhaps just Elgar, Handel, Johann Christian Bach, Haydn and a
> few others who actually went to England are appreciated, which is a shame.
> Perhaps the British should come out of their hobbit-holes more often and see
> what a big world full of wonders it is out there...

Oh, sure, because *one* person who lives in Britain doesn't like 
classical music all that much, the whole country must be like that. ;-)

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Dnia 08.02.2008 Gail Shaw <initialsurname@sentech> napisał/a:
>
> "Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
> news:47ac757e@news.povray.org...
>>
>> As a practical matter - I'm not aware of anybody who permits you to
>> obtain MP3s legally. (Or at least, MP3s of commercial music anyway.)
>
> Amazon. Apple. To name just 2

Jamendo http://www.jamendo.com/en/

A.

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:20:53 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> 
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> ...
>>> Actually, I was surprised that the Amazon downloadable Complete LOTR
>>> soundtracks are in MP3 format.  I don't *think* there's any DRM
>>> involved (which was really surprising).
>> But maybe they can tell who bought the mp3 file by looking at it...
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=mp3+watermark+amazon
> 
> I'm sure they probably can.  That's a bit different than DRM, though, 
> which has the explicit stated goal of preventing people from 
> "inappropriate use".  Watermarking allows them to act reactivley - and I 
> believe is fairly easy to remove anyways...
> 
> mplayer -ao pcm:file=temp.wav file.mp3
> lame -h temp.wav file-without-watermark.mp3

Yes, but then you assume that the watermarking is done on the bit-level.

What if they change the music somewhat in a way that will survive format
conversion ? (E.g. tiny changes in volume levels within a frequency
band, small phase shifts, changes in the dynamic range, added noise or
a combination of some of these.)

There will only have to be minor changes to the sound, as they will only
have to encode something like e.g. 30 bits into more than 100s of sound
in 2 channels.

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Invisible wrote:
> OK, when I scan my eyes across my CD collection, this is what I see:
> 
[snip list]
> So, what's in *your* CD collection?
> 
three main streams
- progressive/symphonic rock and related (Ayreon, Yes, Rush, Fish, 
Within Temptation, Vangelis ...)
- Folk and related (Mary Black, Meav, Loreena McKennitt, Janis Ian, Eric 
Bogle, Fairport Convention, Christy Moore, Mary Coughlan...)
- Classical and opera (Wagner, Bach, Beethoven, Purcell, Mahler, Haydn...)

alongside these
- a small section of pop-like (Bowie, Dire Straights, Joy division, Kate 
Bush...)
- a collection of somewhat rarer music a.o. Hildegard von Bingen, 
family, and things picked up on holidays.

I recently bought Paris Moon by Blackmore's Night (yes, the guy from 
deep purple). I do like it but am not sure what category that would be.

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Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> 
> Ever heard a Persian guy sing "Amazing Grace"? That song is 
> boring at the best of times...
> 
just to be sure, we are talking about this boring piece?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pK4PtJiOPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3XdXEJEI4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHpye0M34JQ

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> I recently bought Paris Moon by Blackmore's Night (yes, the guy from
> deep purple). I do like it but am not sure what category that would be.

Another Blackmore's Night fan. I recommend you try their albums Fires at
Midnight (especially the song on it of the same title) and The Village
Lantern (and again, especially the song of the same title)

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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> >
> > Ever heard a Persian guy sing "Amazing Grace"? That song is
> > boring at the best of times...
> >
> just to be sure, we are talking about this boring piece?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pK4PtJiOPE
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3XdXEJEI4E
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHpye0M34JQ

Orchid's tastes are kinda awkward...

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andrel wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>>
>> Ever heard a Persian guy sing "Amazing Grace"? That song is boring at 
>> the best of times...
>>
> just to be sure, we are talking about this boring piece?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pK4PtJiOPE
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3XdXEJEI4E
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHpye0M34JQ

Yes, that one.

(And trust me, even the most interesting song sounds boring when played 
on a guitar using 3 chords and a flat strumming rhythem. So when you 
start with a boring song in the first place... Not Good.)

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"andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pK4PtJiOPE

Oh wow, she can sing.

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