Don't make this into a flamewar, please...

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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Don't make this into a flamewar, please...
I'm not the one pretending to know some guys' mind and software

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"Saul Luizaga" <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote in message
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> somebody wrote:

> > Every large company has some sort of a "do good/feel good" program, it's
a
> > marketing necessity nowadays, not out of "philanthropy/philosophy for
> > service for the humanity" (!?).

> It is, maybe not 100% altruistic but it is, and that si the important
thing.

Let me rephrase it: Yahoo is no more or no less altruistic than any other
company of that scale.

>>   And don't forget Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation
> >
> > Knee jerk reaction is to root for the ""underdog"" and disparage the
> > "overdog", but MS is probably more "greener" than Yahoo, and if your
motive
> > is truly philantrophy and not simply being anti-MS, it makes more sens
to
> > root for Bill: More of each $1000 you put in Bill's pocket will go to
good
> > causes than from $100 you put into pockets of 10 different people.

> LOL, yeah right dude...

That's not an argument. Mine follows straightforward from the law of
diminishing returns.

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Saul Luizaga wrote:
> I'm not the one pretending to know some guys' mind and software

I think the problem is you're presenting personal judgements as facts. 
Rather than "I find MS's software to be crappy," you say "MS makes 
crappy software."  The very "MS is a crappy company, and it doesn't 
matter what everyone else thinks" sounds very bigoted.

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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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Darren New wrote:
> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>> I'm not the one pretending to know some guys' mind and software
> 
> I think the problem is you're presenting personal judgements as facts. 
> Rather than "I find MS's software to be crappy," you say "MS makes 
> crappy software."  The very "MS is a crappy company, and it doesn't 
> matter what everyone else thinks" sounds very bigoted.
> 
ok ok, maybe I'm exagerating here, but MS HAS done some very crappy 
software, you can't tell me I'm wrong in that. Windows 2000, for me, is 
a master peace of OS, an example of low memory and extreme efficiency 
and stability, something MS forgot when they made WinXP. Since WinXP is 
a hybrid between Win2K and WinME, I think they put too much of WinME in XP.

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somebody wrote:
> "Saul Luizaga" <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote in message
> news:47b095d1@news.povray.org...
>> somebody wrote:
> 
>>> Every large company has some sort of a "do good/feel good" program, it's
> a
>>> marketing necessity nowadays, not out of "philanthropy/philosophy for
>>> service for the humanity" (!?).
> 
>> It is, maybe not 100% altruistic but it is, and that si the important
> thing.
> 
> Let me rephrase it: Yahoo is no more or no less altruistic than any other
> company of that scale.

maybe... maybe not, I give them the benefit of doubt, unless of course, 
you know, first hand, better/otherwise.

>>>   And don't forget Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation
>>>
>>> Knee jerk reaction is to root for the ""underdog"" and disparage the
>>> "overdog", but MS is probably more "greener" than Yahoo, and if your
> motive
>>> is truly philantrophy and not simply being anti-MS, it makes more sens
> to
>>> root for Bill: More of each $1000 you put in Bill's pocket will go to
> good
>>> causes than from $100 you put into pockets of 10 different people.
> 
>> LOL, yeah right dude...
> 
> That's not an argument. Mine follows straightforward from the law of
> diminishing returns.

   Oh dude... I don't have enough words to describe my disgust for Bill 
gates and Microcrap.

   Listen I come from the time of MS DOS, I was a noob programmer back 
then and among compilers, .dll and other basic programming components 
the chat between close friends was don't use that MS 
compiler/component/program is very slow, is buggy it doesn't do well 
this... is crappy. Maybe MS has changed in part that but that's all I'm 
admitting.


About MS (lol)... a few months ago Internet Explorer 7 Team invited some 
  Mozilla FIreFox guys to help them better Integrate FireFox into the, 
back then, up coming Windows "Long Horn" (Vista), but I read in some 
other article later on, that they basically asked for help to give IE7 
tabbed capability and other FireFox security features, with all the 
millions, sorry BILLIONS... they ask developers from a freeware 
organization ADVICE. MS develops programming laguages... enough said.

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I'm not sure how related this is...

Three or four people were fired from the Yahoo! Widgets team today.

http://twitter.com/rickyromero/statuses/704725872

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Saul Luizaga wrote:
> ok ok, maybe I'm exagerating here, but MS HAS done some very crappy 
> software, you can't tell me I'm wrong in that.

No dispute with that, indeed.  But it tends to disappear pretty quickly, 
just like everyone else's crappy software.  Microsoft Bob? Windows ME?

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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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Darren New wrote:
> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>> ok ok, maybe I'm exagerating here, but MS HAS done some very crappy 
>> software, you can't tell me I'm wrong in that.
> 
> No dispute with that, indeed.  But it tends to disappear pretty quickly, 
> just like everyone else's crappy software.  Microsoft Bob? Windows ME?
> 
True and I hope that tendecy continues :)

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Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> Windows 2000, for me, is 
> a master peace of OS, an example of low memory and extreme efficiency

  Was that some kind of subtle sarcasm?

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