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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 11:57:01
Message: <478ce5dd$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:48:00 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:39:19 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>> 
>>> Chambers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey, congrats on hearing back!  Did he give you any useful advice?
>>> Not really, no. Just the standard "unfortunately you have not been
>>> selected. Thank you for your continued interest in our company and we
>>> wish you every success in your future endevours" or something.
>> 
>> Well, don't be discouraged by it - not everyone's going to hire you.
> 
> Yeah, sure. I was fairly sure I wouldn't get the job in the first place.
> I just thought I'd give it a go... ;-)

Then good for you!  That's the spirit, and all that. :-)

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 13:09:40
Message: <478cf6e4$1@news.povray.org>
>> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
>> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
> 
> Well, don't be.  Just because a few people complain doesn't mean you 
> should stop what you're doing.  If you changed direction everytime one or 
> two people said "dude, you suck!", you'd never get anything accomplished.

Hmm... perhaps this is why I have never accomplished anything in my 
entire life?

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 13:25:25
Message: <478cfa95$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:09:44 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

>>> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
>>> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
>> 
>> Well, don't be.  Just because a few people complain doesn't mean you
>> should stop what you're doing.  If you changed direction everytime one
>> or two people said "dude, you suck!", you'd never get anything
>> accomplished.
> 
> Hmm... perhaps this is why I have never accomplished anything in my
> entire life?

IMO, the best approach is not to worry about pleasing other people or 
about what other people think.  Just be yourself.

I'm in charge of a somewhat large number of external instructors in my 
job; if I spent all my time trying to please them all, I'd never get any 
work done at all.  So I make my decisions based on my perception of 
what's best for the majority of the group overall.  Some of them don't 
like it, because they don't get special treatment that they used to get.  
Usually that's enough, but I've got a few who insist they be treated 
differently.  That's too bad, because I'm not making exceptions for 
friends of mine, so why should I make exceptions for someone who says 
they should get one?

Overall, the group (several hundred members) has appreciated what I've 
done.  The subset that are unhappy with me are a small minority, but they 
can be very vocal.

Jim


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From: somebody
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 15 Jan 2008 21:09:36
Message: <478d6760$1@news.povray.org>
"Kyle" <hob### [at] gatenet> wrote
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:24:44 -0700, "somebody" <x### [at] ycom> wrote:

> >> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
> >> **** about my life. Sorry about that...

> >I'm pretty sure somebody does, the tricky part is finding him/her...

> That's an interesting response, given that your username is "somebody".

Naturally, I'm thinking about somebody *else*.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 16 Jan 2008 01:21:56
Message: <478da284@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
> 
>> Hey, congrats on hearing back!  Did he give you any useful advice?
> 
> Not really, no.

Ah, a Wilkinson letter.

"You have a very impressive resume. Unfortunately, we can't hire you at 
this time."

The first sentence lifts you high, the second sentence snips you off 
real close and smooth.


-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 16 Jan 2008 01:22:39
Message: <478da2af$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Interesting. I didn't know that. (Does it also apply in the UK?)

It sure as H doesn't in the USA! :-)

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 16 Jan 2008 04:10:05
Message: <478dc9ed$1@news.povray.org>
>> Hmm... perhaps this is why I have never accomplished anything in my
>> entire life?
> 
> IMO, the best approach is not to worry about pleasing other people or 
> about what other people think.  Just be yourself.

Heh. Just imagine what must be possible if you possess self-confidence...


> Overall, the group (several hundred members) has appreciated what I've 
> done.  The subset that are unhappy with me are a small minority, but they 
> can be very vocal.

...and this is why I'll never be a leader. ;-)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 16 Jan 2008 04:10:30
Message: <478dca06$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Interesting. I didn't know that. (Does it also apply in the UK?)
> 
> It sure as H doesn't in the USA! :-)

Oh yes - the singing fish episode...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 16 Jan 2008 05:43:31
Message: <478ddfd2@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
> > Interesting. I didn't know that. (Does it also apply in the UK?)

> It sure as H doesn't in the USA! :-)

  While I'm not inherently opposed to capitalism (as long as there's a
strong government protecting people from exploitation), sometimes it feels
that the capitalist ideology has gone way too far in the US. Sometimes it
feels that employers and companies have way too many rights over employees
and individuals.

  Maybe it's a bit of a counter-reaction (if not even an over-reaction)
to the dangers of communism?

  I'll be interested in seeing Michael Moore's documentary about the
farmaceutical industry in the capitalist US. Should be interesting.
(I know he sometimes presents conveniently selected truths, and I do
take them with the proper grain of salt, but I'm sure that he has good
points.)

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: The unexpected...
Date: 16 Jan 2008 08:49:56
Message: <478e0b84$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:

> I always considered an interview as a two-way street.  They were 
> interviewing me, but I was also interviewing them.  If I didn't like what 
> I heard, I'd turn the job down (and have a couple of times).
> 


It's the only smart thing to do - unless you are desperate.


Tom


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