Tim Cook wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Sherry Shaw wrote:
>>> whether or not Schrödinger's Lab Assistant looks in the box, because 
>>> the *cat* knows what happened."  
>>
>> That was exactly the point of the thought-experiment. At what level of 
>> sophistication does the "observer" collapse the possibilities? The 
>> argument was over whether having instruments there was sufficient to 
>> "collapse the wave form", or whether someone actually had to look at 
>> the instruments.
>>
>> </fuddyduddy>
> 
> "If nobody can observe you, you don't exist."
> 

So, if I look in the mirror...................

--Sherry "God" Shaw


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Invisible wrote:
> 
> So... if a man speaks in a forest and no women is there to hear him... 
> is he still wrong?
> 

Yes.

--Sherry "I Win" Shaw


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Kyle wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:31:17 -0600, Sherry Shaw <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> 
> 
>> --Sherry "Crazy Cat Lady" Shaw
> 
> http://www.mcphee.com/items/11377.html
> 
> 

Hey, I only have *three* cats--but they're ALL crazy...

--Sherry "Ain't Language Fun?" Shaw


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Stephen wrote:
> "bluetree" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>> Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:52:30 EST, "bluetree" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>>>
>>>> But pointing again to the cat's point of view.
>>> Wouldn't a cat just go to sleep until it was hungry then kick butt 'till it got
>>> out? :)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>  Stephen
>> So you are inside the box.
>> You can't see anything.
>> And you are the cat?
>> Where do you know from, that you should "kick butt 'till you get out"? :-)
>>
>> bluetree
> 
> The mad cat lady will visit you with a chainsaw :)
> 
> Cats don't need to know they just do or don't as they feel fit.
> 

I am the cat.

I am the cat in the box.

I am the box.

I am the chainsaw.

I am the--oh, hell, I wish I had some weed.  Bet I could think some 
really deep poetic thoughts about this if...Oh, hello--did I say that 
out loud?  Oops.  Erm, where was I?  Ah, yes...

I am the butt-kicking chainsaw-wielding cat in the box.  Beware the cat. 
  But, even more, beware the box.

Damn, I miss the Seventies.  I think.

--Sherry Shaw


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Sherry Shaw <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> So, if I look in the mirror...................

lol, I had the same thought.
What about, if you are a cat looking into the mirror?
You won't realize that's you.
But if you were an elephant, dophin, primate or a very clever magpie, you could
notize:
Oh, that's me. Ah, I'm existing.
Oh, one more mistake. That elephant won't fit into the box.

bluetree

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Sherry Shaw <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> I am the cat.
>
> I am the cat in the box.
>
> I am the box.
>
> I am the chainsaw.
>
> I am the--oh, hell, I wish I had some weed.  Bet I could think some
> really deep poetic thoughts about this if...Oh, hello--did I say that
> out loud?  Oops.  Erm, where was I?  Ah, yes...
>
> I am the butt-kicking chainsaw-wielding cat in the box.  Beware the cat.
>   But, even more, beware the box.
>
> Damn, I miss the Seventies.  I think.
>
> --Sherry Shaw
>
>
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Be nice, chainsaw-wielding cat!

Hm, what's about that:

I'm the darkness around you, cat!
Beware the darkness. :-)

bluetree

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>> So... if a man speaks in a forest and no women is there to hear him... 
>> is he still wrong?
>>
> 
> Yes.
> 
> --Sherry "I Win" Shaw

You must love being a girl...

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Sherry Shaw wrote:

> Hey, I only have *three* cats--but they're ALL crazy...

...there are cats that *aren't* crazy??

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:27:06 -0600, Sherry Shaw <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:

>
>I am the chainsaw.
>
>I am the--oh, hell, I wish I had some weed. 

I am the me.

You can have some of mine only it is solid not herbal.
Hence the fruit loop :)

Regards
	Stephen

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bluetree wrote:
> Sherry Shaw <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> So, if I look in the mirror...................
> 
> lol, I had the same thought.
> What about, if you are a cat looking into the mirror?
> You won't realize that's you.
> But if you were an elephant, dophin, primate or a very clever magpie, you could
> notize:
> Oh, that's me. Ah, I'm existing.
> Oh, one more mistake. That elephant won't fit into the box.
> 
> bluetree
> 

You might add mice to that list. They can contemplate questions and
determine if they think they know the answer. Give one enough time with
a mirror and it might reach the same conclusion.

Knowing they exist should make them more fearful of cats. Maybe the mice
are just convinced that cats don't exist.

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