#3 Island of the Twelve Monkeys

#2 2001 Space Oddessy.

#1 Dune.

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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> #3 Island of the Twelve Monkeys

  What is that? IMDB doesn't know it.

  For some reason when I watched Blade Runner, I found it incomprehensible.
The book was a lot more comprehensible. (I don't remember which one I saw/read
first...)

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> #3 Island of the Twelve Monkeys

There's a movie called "The Island" and another one called "Twelve monkeys",
and then there's a movie about one single monkey on an island but really
it's an ape and it's called "King Kong". Which one didn't you understand? Or 
the 3 of them?

>
> #2 2001 Space Oddessy.

You didn't get the name right either.

> #1 Dune.

Well, you got this one right, but that's a 4-letter title.

Did you see the movie "Pi"?  It's only one letter in greek and about maths, 
I guess you should get it :D

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Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> #3 Island of the Twelve Monkeys
> 
>   What is that? IMDB doesn't know it.

It involves Bruce Willis in a dystopian future and a team of scientists 
who keep sending him back in time to try to avert the terrorist 
catastrophy that overtook civilisation - apparently perpetrated by a 
band calling themselves "the island of the twelve monkeys". As it turns 
out, this band is actually a bunch of kids out to cause a bit of 
trouble, and the real catastrophy was brought about by an eminent 
biological scientist who decided to murder the world. For no defined 
reason. Obviously nobody believes that Willis is actually from the 
future, and he slowly goes mad, eventually believing that his time spent 
in the future is actually a hollucination.

Basically, a very bad film that barely makes sense.

>   For some reason when I watched Blade Runner, I found it incomprehensible.
> The book was a lot more comprehensible. (I don't remember which one I saw/read
> first...)

I think I'd class that one more as "rather hard to follow" rather than 
actually "incomprehensible".

Dune made absolutely no semblence of sence. I mean, events happen, and 
the events kind of vaguely make sense, but WHY are these events 
happening? And who ARE these people? And WTF is going ON here? I'm lost! 
Ditto for 2001. (Seemingly a random selection of camera angles.)

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And lo on Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:08:24 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

> Warp wrote:
>> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> #3 Island of the Twelve Monkeys
>>    What is that? IMDB doesn't know it.

Just IMDB Twelve Monkeys instead.

> It involves Bruce Willis in a dystopian future and a team of scientists  
> who keep sending him back in time to try to avert the terrorist  
> catastrophy that overtook civilisation - apparently perpetrated by a  
> band calling themselves "the island of the twelve monkeys". As it turns  
> out, this band is actually a bunch of kids out to cause a bit of  
> trouble, and the real catastrophy was brought about by an eminent  
> biological scientist who decided to murder the world. For no defined  
> reason. Obviously nobody believes that Willis is actually from the  
> future, and he slowly goes mad, eventually believing that his time spent  
> in the future is actually a hollucination.
>
> Basically, a very bad film that barely makes sense.

I really enjoyed it, for the first half of the film you're unsure whether  
Willis is really a time-traveller or just nuts, for the second half that  
all gets cleared up. I can't say more without spoiling it.

>>   For some reason when I watched Blade Runner, I found it  
>> incomprehensible.
>> The book was a lot more comprehensible. (I don't remember which one I  
>> saw/read
>> first...)
>
> I think I'd class that one more as "rather hard to follow" rather than  
> actually "incomprehensible".

I've got to admit for me BR was a bit too artsy; don't get me wrong I  
enjoy/ed it, but at times it seems/ed to be art for the sake of art. Meh.

> Dune made absolutely no semblence of sence. I mean, events happen, and  
> the events kind of vaguely make sense, but WHY are these events  
> happening? And who ARE these people? And WTF is going ON here? I'm lost!

To me the film with Sting had the contradictionary stance of a) not  
following the book's plot except in general, while b) only making sense if  
you'd read the book; not helped by having to cram it all into a keeping  
bums-on-seats time. The longer mini-series is much better.

> Ditto for 2001. (Seemingly a random selection of camera angles.)

Again I liked 2001 even if the first time I saw it I couldn't make head  
nor tail of it; it grew on me.

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Gilles Tran wrote:

> 477e0067$1@news.povray.org...
>> #3 Island of the Twelve Monkeys
> 
> There's a movie called "The Island" and another one called "Twelve monkeys",
> and then there's a movie about one single monkey on an island but really
> it's an ape and it's called "King Kong". Which one didn't you understand? Or 
> the 3 of them?

LOL!

Well King Kong is pretty easy to understand. I've never seen The Island, 
so I'm guessing the middle one.

>> #2 2001 Space Oddessy.
> 
> You didn't get the name right either.

In what way?

>> #1 Dune.
> 
> Well, you got this one right, but that's a 4-letter title.
> 
> Did you see the movie "Pi"?

No - but I own the soundtrack. (Which is mostly of a pretty low quality.)

> It's only one letter in greek and about maths, 
> I guess you should get it :D

I suspect it's actually *not* about maths, but about some theory that 
behind all the equations there's some amazing secret to be discovered, 
and this is what the film revolves around. But that's only from my 
impression of the soundtrack...

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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> #3 Island of the Twelve Monkeys

You mean 12 Monkeys. It's not supposed to make sense til the end.

> #2 2001 Space Oddessy.

Try reading the book. The first sequel's also good, not sure about the other
2.
What was confusing about this anyway?

> #1 Dune.

Try reading the book. Just don't bother with any of the sequels.

FWIW, I watched and loved all three, and had no problems understanding them
(at the end, you're supposed to be asking questions while watching).

That said, they're not straight forward no-thought-required movies and, I
believe, a lot of the attraction of them would be lost if they were

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> Warp wrote:
>> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> #3 Island of the Twelve Monkeys
>>
>>   What is that? IMDB doesn't know it.
> 
> It involves Bruce Willis in a dystopian future and a team of scientists 
> who keep sending him back in time to try to avert the terrorist 
> catastrophy that overtook civilisation - apparently perpetrated by a 
> band calling themselves "the island of the twelve monkeys". As it turns 
> out, this band is actually a bunch of kids out to cause a bit of 
> trouble, and the real catastrophy was brought about by an eminent 
> biological scientist who decided to murder the world. For no defined 
> reason. Obviously nobody believes that Willis is actually from the 
> future, and he slowly goes mad, eventually believing that his time spent 
> in the future is actually a hollucination.
> 
> Basically, a very bad film that barely makes sense.
> 

I think you mean "Twelve Monkeys":
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114746/

Actually the name of the terrorist band should be "the army of the 
twelve monkeys". It's also the French title of the movie :-)

I've seen it on the TV and found it not so bad...

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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> #3 Island of the Twelve Monkeys
> > 
> >   What is that? IMDB doesn't know it.

> It involves Bruce Willis

  The name of the movie is "Twelve Monkeys". I don't understand where
you got the "island" part. I don't even remember the world "island"
being even mentioned in the movie.

> Basically, a very bad film that barely makes sense.

  Twelve Monkeys is one of the best movies I have seen. If I remember
correctly, I have seen it 4 times, and each time I have got something
new from it.

  The very first time you see it there might be things which are difficult
to understand (it becomes much clearer on a second viewing). However,
I really don't understand what you mean with "incomprehensible".

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"Invisible" wrote:
> It involves Bruce Willis in a dystopian future and a team of scientists 
> who keep sending him back in time to try to avert the terrorist 
> catastrophy that overtook civilisation - apparently perpetrated by a band 
> calling themselves "the island of the twelve monkeys". As it turns out, 
> this band is actually a bunch of kids out to cause a bit of trouble, and 
> the real catastrophy was brought about by an eminent biological scientist 
> who decided to murder the world. For no defined reason. Obviously nobody 
> believes that Willis is actually from the future, and he slowly goes mad, 
> eventually believing that his time spent in the future is actually a 
> hollucination.
>
> Basically, a very bad film that barely makes sense.

I think it's a very good film (one of my favorites) that mostly makes sense 
just fine. Certainly, the time travel logic used makes a lot more sense than 
in most other movies with time travel, i.e. it doesn't contradict itself.

The "beauty" of the time travel story here is the recurring dream he has 
about some man dying at an airport. The dream is caused by him witnessing 
this stranger dying at an airport as a child, and in the end of the movie, 
it turns out that the man is actually himself. So as a child he witnessed 
his older self dying and the scene keeps coming back to him in his dreams.

> and the real catastrophy was brought about by an eminent biological 
> scientist who decided to murder the world. For no defined reason.

Sounds like something that could happen in the real world to me. Some people 
*are* weird and take very strange decisions.

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