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Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Jar Jar was annoying
I have always noticed that I'm different than the majority of people,
and this is no exception: Jar Jar was not annoying when I watched the
movie for first time, and neither when I watched it a second time.
I actually found Yoda to be much more annoying the first time he appears
on screen in the older trilogy.
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Warp wrote:
> Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> Jar Jar was annoying
>
> I have always noticed that I'm different than the majority of people,
> and this is no exception: Jar Jar was not annoying when I watched the
> movie for first time, and neither when I watched it a second time.
>
> I actually found Yoda to be much more annoying the first time he appears
> on screen in the older trilogy.
That's fair enough. Yoda was supposed to be annoying, at least to start
with - he appeared to be hindering Luke's quest.
Jar Jar is the same - he clearly tests the patience of the Jedi by his
clumsiness and carefree demeanor. That's all I meant, really, he didn't
spoil the film for me. Many people say they would have liked EpI were it
not for Jar Jar; I suspect these people would have found fault with the
film anyway.
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> "Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
> news:47839f0a$1@news.povray.org...
> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/01/08/funny-pictures-is-fulla-starz/
>>>> http://www.xkcd.com/224/
>>> Huh? Related how?
>> "My God, it's full of CARs..." ;-)
>
> The comic you linked to is titled Lisp, and wonders if god constructed the
> universe using lisp.
>
>
Perhaps you have not been subjected to LISP Gail. (Apologies in advance
if you have).
Two of the fundamental operations are taking the head item of a list
using CAR and taking the remainder of the list using CDR.
Sounds complete nonsense until you learn that CAR stands for 'Contents
of the Address Register' and CDR stands for 'Contents of the Decrement
Register' and that LISP is from LISt Programming. It is all about
processing lists, including lists of data and lists of instructions.
CAR and CDR were the assembler code mnemonics for the instructions that
performed the operations on some ancient machine (IBM 704 ?). Actually
I think they may have been assembler macros that expanded into a few
machine instructions each. Anyway programmers used to write this stuff
by hand. Later LISP would translate the program text into the instructions.
Starter exercises in LISP are all about understanding what (CAR (CDR '(A
B C))) returns.
So it is a neat pun and I had a chuckle at the cartoon.
Now I'm going to BXLE out of here.
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And lo on Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:59:34 -0000, Bill Pragnell
<bil### [at] hotmailcom> did spake, saying:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> I think the actors tried hard, but the script, as you say, was sub-par.
>>> Additionally, Lucas wasn't interested in honing dialogue or shooting
>>> any re-takes at all (except for completely fluffed lines, sets falling
>>> over etc). Consequently, the action and effects are awesome but the
>>> actual character interaction feels really fake and unbelievable.
>> Oh, I do think that the actors tried hard and didn't have a lot to
>> work with, absolutely. Agreed 100%.
>
> There is one scene in EpIII that I think transcends the normal StarWars
> feel with powerful, subtle meaning: the completely dialogue-free scene
> where Anakin and Padme are in separate locations across the Capital,
> each looking toward where they know the other must be and each thinking
> about the other. It's just before Anakin makes the decision that pushes
> him past the point of no return - to go to Palpatine's office when Windu
> tries to arrest him. It might just be me, but I really like that scene.
The major difficulty was trying to believe that Anakin loved Amadala so
much he'd turn to the darkside to save her; as has been mentioned the
spark just wasn't there.
>> I guess it's fair to say that going into ep1 I had no expectations, but
>> then I was confronted with Jar Jar, and I just wanted to hit something
>> Lucas-like.
>
> Jar Jar was annoying, but I didn't think EpI was as bad as everyone else
> thinks. I absolutely love the podrace, even if they did use F1 car sound
> effects when they should have been using turbine engines!
My problem with the podrace was thinking "Ah yes let's stick a race in the
middle of this film so we've got something to liven up the inevitable game
version"
>> I really liked the uncut version of Blade Runner better than the
>> theatrical release specifically for this matter; RS was told he needed
>> a "clean" ending with no uncertainty, but his original vision was far,
>> far better because you just didn't know how things ended up.
Ah yes the 'we know the audience better then you do' approach "Ending not
clear, Me no understand, is sequel coming? Me not happy. Hulk smash!"
> Best lightsaber fight of the series. Best effects shot (for me) - when
> the Falcon escapes Bespin at full pelt with the sun peeking from behind
> the planet in the background. Best acted scene of the series - "I love
> you" - "I know". And no ewoks! ;-)
ESB was the best of the original three, which in turn automatically makes
it the best of the six ;-)
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Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> > ESB was definitely the best of the bunch - I really liked that one.
> Best lightsaber fight of the series.
Episode 1 had the best lightsaber fight by far.
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Warp wrote:
> Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>> ESB was definitely the best of the bunch - I really liked that one.
>
>> Best lightsaber fight of the series.
>
> Episode 1 had the best lightsaber fight by far.
Did you see the YouTube video where they took the fight scene from
Episode III and played it at 2x speed?
Damn that was amusing...
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Warp wrote:
> Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>> ESB was definitely the best of the bunch - I really liked that one.
>
>> Best lightsaber fight of the series.
>
> Episode 1 had the best lightsaber fight by far.
I had to think carefully to put ESB ahead of PM, because PM's duel is
indeed superb. The swordplay is definitely better. And bonus points to
the double blade. However, I have to give it to ESB because of the
setting, the context, the climax, and the fact that lots of scenery gets
chopped up convincingly. :-)
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Darren New wrote:
> Bad acting is where they act like actors instead of like the characters
> they're supposed to be. It includes body language, for example. :-)
And you know how the characters are *supposed* to behave?
--
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>>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
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Warp wrote:
> Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
>> But anyway, I get amused with comments about "bad acting". What exactly
>> is bad acting? Can't seem to come up with an objective criterion.
>
> Acting is bad when you notice that they are acting, ie. when it makes
I very frequently notice people acting. As I mentioned, almost all the
actors in action movies are noticeably acting. It rarely corresponds to
behavior in real life situations.
For me, it's highly subjective. If someone seems to be reciting lines,
(and it's not made clear that the character's personality should do it),
that's bad acting. Everything else is based on "fits well with the
scene", etc. I just can't be more objective.
I have no issues with people liking/disliking the acting in movies.
Arguing about it, however, seems futile. "Good" acting almost comes down
to a personal preference. Like one's taste in music.
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DOS means never having to live hand-to-mouse
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>>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
anl
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Chambers wrote:
> That was probably it (how am I supposed to remember a random number
> close to fifteen years later?)
It's been about that long for me...
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DOS means never having to live hand-to-mouse
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/ \/ \ u e e n / \/ a w a z
>>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
anl
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