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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Most incomprehensible films ever
Date: 9 Jan 2008 10:42:57
Message: <4784eb81@news.povray.org>
Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
> >   I assume you have seen "Big Size Me"?-)

> No, but I've read enough articles about the subject that I get the 
> general gist of it.

  I really recommend it.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Most incomprehensible films ever
Date: 9 Jan 2008 11:33:57
Message: <4784f775$1@news.povray.org>
Bill Pragnell wrote:
> I never spot twists in films anyway; I long ago learnt to concentrate on 
> the 'now' in a film and immerse myself without trying to think ahead. 

Same here. And if I realize how the movie is going to end anyway, it's a 
disppointingly trite movie. Far too much of the popular stuff is like that.

Or you get something like Vanilla Sky, where you get to the end and go 
"Uh, huh??"

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Most incomprehensible films ever
Date: 9 Jan 2008 11:35:08
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>> Unbreakable wasn't bad, but it wasn't overly good 
> 
>> Way, *way* too long. If they'd chopped out 40 minutes or so, it would 
>> have been excellent.
> 
>   I disagree. If they had chopped 40 minutes then it would simply have
> been a regular hollywood blockbuster.

Could be. And Bruce Willis is good enough you can actually get something 
out of it. I just thought the pace didn't fit the mood. I got bored 
waiting for the next bit. Maybe I was anticipating a twist and hence 
anxious to find out what it was.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Most incomprehensible films ever
Date: 9 Jan 2008 11:35:49
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> I mean, hell, Jabba the hut had more personality than Queen Amanda.
> 
>   I thought it was Amidala, or something like that.

My point exactly. I watched her for three movies and I can't even 
remember her name. ;-)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Most incomprehensible films ever
Date: 9 Jan 2008 11:36:38
Message: <4784f816$1@news.povray.org>
Bill Pragnell wrote:
> It's a good laugh. Good action, pleasantly trivial story, and some 
> cracking dialogue from Sam Jackson.

"You're making an assumption."  Classic line.

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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Most incomprehensible films ever
Date: 9 Jan 2008 12:06:51
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Darren New wrote:
> Bill Pragnell wrote:
>> It's a good laugh. Good action, pleasantly trivial story, and some 
>> cracking dialogue from Sam Jackson.
> 
> "You're making an assumption."  Classic line.

Just casting my eye down the quote list on IMDB is making me laugh out 
loud. I reckon every one of Jackson's lines is a classic!

Check em out:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116908/quotes


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: Most incomprehensible films ever
Date: 9 Jan 2008 13:33:06
Message: <47851362$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   I have seen movies with truely bad acting, and I didn't see any of that in
> the SW trilogy. I never understood what people are talking about when they
> say there's bad acting in the trilogy. Granted, perhaps not oscar-worthy
> acting, but bad?

Not so much bad acting as bad chemistry.  You could really tell in 
scenes with just Anakin and Amidala, they just weren't clicking, but the 
second Ewan McGregor enters any scene, everybody else responds and 
displays a much higher level of ability than otherwise.  Kind of 
interesting, really.

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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Most incomprehensible films ever
Date: 9 Jan 2008 19:26:41
Message: <47856641$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>>> Unbreakable wasn't bad, but it wasn't overly good 
>>
>>> Way, *way* too long. If they'd chopped out 40 minutes or so, it would
>>> have been excellent.
>>
>>   I disagree. If they had chopped 40 minutes then it would simply have
>> been a regular hollywood blockbuster.
> 
> Could be. And Bruce Willis is good enough you can actually get something
> out of it. I just thought the pace didn't fit the mood. I got bored
> waiting for the next bit. Maybe I was anticipating a twist and hence
> anxious to find out what it was.

	I had no complaints about Unbreakable. Of all his movies, I think this
was the most mature - he didn't seem to go for any sensationalism. I
didn't even care about the "twist". I liked it quite a bit till then anyway.

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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Most incomprehensible films ever
Date: 9 Jan 2008 19:30:56
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>> but that it failed to meet fan expectations. 
> 
>> That, and the acting sucked.
> 
>   I have seen movies with truely bad acting, and I didn't see any of that in
> the SW trilogy. I never understood what people are talking about when they
> say there's bad acting in the trilogy. Granted, perhaps not oscar-worthy
> acting, but bad?

	I won't get into arguing about Star Wars too much, because while I
liked the original trilogy, it was only because I was quite young. I'm
sure if I saw them originally as an adult, I'd enjoy them, and forget
about them quickly.

	But anyway, I get amused with comments about "bad acting". What exactly
is bad acting? Can't seem to come up with an objective criterion.

	Friend of mine tried to insist good acting was, "They acted the way
real people would in that situation". He wasn't consistent with that
definition. He liked the acting in a lot of action movies, where almost
no one acts as they would in real life. I don't like that definition
(but hey, if someone really cares about realism...).

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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Most incomprehensible films ever
Date: 9 Jan 2008 19:33:55
Message: <478567f3$1@news.povray.org>
Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>   I thought 'The Long Kiss Goodnight' was good. Enough to perhaps even
>>> deserve a second watching at some point.
>>
>> Never saw it.
> 
> It's a good laugh. Good action, pleasantly trivial story, and some
> cracking dialogue from Sam Jackson.

	Samuel Jackson more or less made the movie. It's good entertainment
overall, but his character just kept cracking me up.

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