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From: Jim Charter
Subject: photos
Date: 3 Jan 2008 20:00:03
Message: <477d8513$1@news.povray.org>
In a Windows environment,

say I have a bunch of photographs stored on directories...

suppose I want to store the photos and give them attributes such that

I could retreive subsets of them using different filters on those

attributes in a flexible, 'relational' way...

is there currently any solution | method | common practice for doing

this?

assume I know nothing

-Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: photos
Date: 3 Jan 2008 21:16:14
Message: <477d96ee$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
> is there currently any solution | method | common practice for doing

I have heard very good things about a product called "ThumbsPlus" a 
while back. You might want to look into that. It was cheap enough for a 
friend to buy it for me without me asking. (Never actually installed it, 
tho.)

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: photos
Date: 3 Jan 2008 21:31:32
Message: <477d9a84$1@news.povray.org>

> In a Windows environment,
> 
> say I have a bunch of photographs stored on directories...
> 
> suppose I want to store the photos and give them attributes such that
> 
> I could retreive subsets of them using different filters on those
> 
> attributes in a flexible, 'relational' way...
> 
> is there currently any solution | method | common practice for doing
> 
> this?
> 
> assume I know nothing
> 
> -Jim

I'm about to write a database-based application for the family holiday 
pics. Maybe even something web-based on the LAN so that my sister can 
add the tags when she's bored.


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From: Mike the Elder
Subject: Re: photos
Date: 3 Jan 2008 22:05:01
Message: <web.477da2082a9bcdbb29e441010@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> In a Windows environment,
>
> say I have a bunch of photographs stored on directories...
>
> suppose I want to store the photos and give them attributes such that
>
> I could retreive subsets of them using different filters on those
>
> attributes in a flexible, 'relational' way...
>
> is there currently any solution | method | common practice for doing
>
> this?
>
> assume I know nothing
>
> -Jim

Is this something like what you're looking for?...
http://www.albumburger.com/en/index.asp

I hope it helps.

Best Regards,
Mike C.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: photos
Date: 3 Jan 2008 23:53:51
Message: <477dbbdf$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> I'm about to write a database-based application for the family holiday 
> pics. Maybe even something web-based on the LAN so that my sister can 
> add the tags when she's bored.

I did one (a while ago) that stored the information in parallel ".info" 
files, and from which you could generate a whole web site to put on a 
CD. You're welcome to it, if you want. :-)

There's also "JAlbum", which is free and apparently stores the comments 
in a ID3-like tag in the JPEG file directly.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: photos
Date: 4 Jan 2008 06:45:22
Message: <477e1c52$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Jim Charter wrote:
>> is there currently any solution | method | common practice for doing
> 
> I have heard very good things about a product called "ThumbsPlus" a 
> while back. You might want to look into that. It was cheap enough for a 
> friend to buy it for me without me asking. (Never actually installed it, 
> tho.)

I use ThumbsPlus, but not for its database feature.  It's just not 
practical when it only gets stored on a file local to a particular 
computer and you have over 200,000 images to tag.  And while you can add 
information in the file itself with Explorer or such, it does change the 
filedate, making *that* information irrelevant (always interesting to 
check out the earliest images in whatever subset of your collection).

-- 
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.digitalartsuk.com

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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: photos
Date: 4 Jan 2008 09:51:44
Message: <477e4800$1@news.povray.org>
Mike the Elder wrote:
> Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> 
>>In a Windows environment,
>>
>>say I have a bunch of photographs stored on directories...
>>
>>suppose I want to store the photos and give them attributes such that
>>
>>I could retreive subsets of them using different filters on those
>>
>>attributes in a flexible, 'relational' way...
>>
>>is there currently any solution | method | common practice for doing
>>
>>this?
>>
>>assume I know nothing
>>
>>-Jim
> 
> 
> Is this something like what you're looking for?...
> http://www.albumburger.com/en/index.asp
> 
> I hope it helps.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Mike C.
> 
> 
> 
Thanks but no, this is a pleasing little app. but too limited. 
Specifically there is not a way to assign attributes other than the 
categories the album provides, also only resolutions up to 1024 are 
supported.  Probably I don't really know what I am looking for.  Better 
would be some sort of ad hoc way to store attributes about an existing 
directory and have that directory be retrievable as a hyper-link.  Not 
sure if such a thing would be possible.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: photos
Date: 4 Jan 2008 10:12:22
Message: <477e4cd6$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> 
>> I'm about to write a database-based application for the family holiday 
>> pics. Maybe even something web-based on the LAN so that my sister can 
>> add the tags when she's bored.
> 
> 
> I did one (a while ago) that stored the information in parallel ".info" 
> files, and from which you could generate a whole web site to put on a 
> CD. You're welcome to it, if you want. :-)

Not sure what you are saying but it sounds closer to my purpose. 
Parallel .info files?

> 
> There's also "JAlbum", which is free and apparently stores the comments 
> in a ID3-like tag in the JPEG file directly.
> 

This looks promising


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: photos
Date: 4 Jan 2008 10:13:16
Message: <477e4d0c@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> 
>> In a Windows environment,
>>
>> say I have a bunch of photographs stored on directories...
>>
>> suppose I want to store the photos and give them attributes such that
>>
>> I could retreive subsets of them using different filters on those
>>
>> attributes in a flexible, 'relational' way...
>>
>> is there currently any solution | method | common practice for doing
>>
>> this?
>>
>> assume I know nothing
>>
>> -Jim
> 
> 
> I'm about to write a database-based application for the family holiday 
> pics. Maybe even something web-based on the LAN so that my sister can 
> add the tags when she's bored.
How would it work?


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From: Thibaut Jonckheere
Subject: Re: photos
Date: 4 Jan 2008 10:13:43
Message: <477e4d27$1@news.povray.org>
I use Adobe Photoshop Album, where I can put tags on photos, and combine 
different tags to filter them. It is easy and flexible. But it is not 
free (and it seems Adobe is no longer selling it, but photoshop elements 
only...).

Otherwise, is not google Picassa able to do what you need ?


Thibaut




> In a Windows environment,
> 
> say I have a bunch of photographs stored on directories...
> 
> suppose I want to store the photos and give them attributes such that
> 
> I could retreive subsets of them using different filters on those
> 
> attributes in a flexible, 'relational' way...
> 
> is there currently any solution | method | common practice for doing
> 
> this?
> 
> assume I know nothing
> 
> -Jim


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