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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 09:29:24
Message: <476141c4@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:47613160@news.povray.org...

> If it can dent plate steel, surely it can do something bad to the flimsy
> layer of bone between your hat and your brain.

Oh sure, if you get a direct strike. Your head's much smaller than a car
though, and the bodywork of a car's not that thick

> > Unless some people were stupid enough to be running
> > around in the hail, I doubt it.
>
> Ooo, a country that doesn't have stupid people...

Oh, we have, lots. Take a look at out politicians
The area's prone to hail storms. I think even the stupidest person's going
to seek some form of shelter if there are large chunks of ice falling from
the sky

> > Largest stones I saw were about the size of a ping-pong ball.
>
> I'd hate to think what the terminal velocity of those must be! (What do
> you recon? 81 characters per second?)

Dunno. Enough to leave a 5mm deep dent in the roof of my car, to smash
assorted windows and to strip leaves from plants.

We've had worse storms. There was one 2 and a half years ago that had some
stones the size of a baseball. The damage that caused was unbelievable. A
friend came home next morning to find several holes in the plastic roof of
her patio


> Presumably they just quaduple your premium and rake in the cash?
>

Nah. If the car had been parked in the open they may have refused my claim
(cause the car's supposed to be kept under cover), but last time I checked,
highways didn't have roofs


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 10:12:35
Message: <47614be3$1@news.povray.org>
>> If it can dent plate steel, surely it can do something bad to the flimsy
>> layer of bone between your hat and your brain.
>
> Oh sure, if you get a direct strike. Your head's much smaller than a car
> though, and the bodywork of a car's not that thick

Yeh exactly, I can probably dent a car just by pressing on it with my thumb 
quite hard.  I'm pretty sure I couldn't kill someone by pressing on their 
head with my thumb...

> We've had worse storms. There was one 2 and a half years ago that had some
> stones the size of a baseball. The damage that caused was unbelievable. A
> friend came home next morning to find several holes in the plastic roof of
> her patio

This is what we had in July last year...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWQh_KHZtTo

Seeing ice on the roads in July (when it's usually 30 degrees) was a bit 
weird...

Luckily I was in a hotel at the time and only caught the edge of it.  My 
friend lost his PC though because he kept it on a desk under a skylight that 
got smashed...


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 10:23:18
Message: <47614e66$1@news.povray.org>
"Leroy" <lrw### [at] joplincom> wrote in message 
news:476### [at] joplincom...
> If you haven't heard. Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri and even a little of 
> Arkansas got hit with a big ice storm. I just got my power back on after 
> two days. I live in Missouri in the middle of the woods. You should have 
> seen and heard all those trees limbs breaking. It was amazing!

We got lucky, and ended up with temps right at the freezing point, so the 
ice generally disappeared by the afternoon.

Sometimes I'm glad we don't have any trees to speak of.


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From: Dan Byers
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 10:25:00
Message: <web.47614dd780fc1f27a8d0b25a0@news.povray.org>
All that fun stuff went just south of us (Omaha).  We got a nice quarter-inch
glazing and about 4 inches of snow on top of it.  No fun to drive in, but I got
the day off, so it had some benefits :)  Supposed to be mid-30s here today, so
some of it should melt (then refreeze overnight... stupid winter!)...

Dan
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 10:27:57
Message: <47614f7d$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>>> If it can dent plate steel, surely it can do something bad to the flimsy
>>> layer of bone between your hat and your brain.
>>
>> Oh sure, if you get a direct strike. Your head's much smaller than a car
>> though, and the bodywork of a car's not that thick
> 
> Yeh exactly, I can probably dent a car just by pressing on it with my 
> thumb quite hard.  I'm pretty sure I couldn't kill someone by pressing 
> on their head with my thumb...

?

I thought a car was supposed to withstand a 120 MPH collision and not 
deform too much... My head certainly would deform a tad!

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 10:41:03
Message: <akk2m3pqc186koml84ik6n5r8n8b1qj91m@4ax.com>
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:27:57 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>scott wrote:
>>>> If it can dent plate steel, surely it can do something bad to the flimsy
>>>> layer of bone between your hat and your brain.
>>>
>>> Oh sure, if you get a direct strike. Your head's much smaller than a car
>>> though, and the bodywork of a car's not that thick
>> 
>> Yeh exactly, I can probably dent a car just by pressing on it with my 
>> thumb quite hard.  I'm pretty sure I couldn't kill someone by pressing 
>> on their head with my thumb...
>
>?
>
>I thought a car was supposed to withstand a 120 MPH collision and not 
>deform too much... My head certainly would deform a tad!

Cars are designed to deform absorbing the impact. And if Scott knew where to
press on someone's head with his thumb. He might be able to do a lot of damage.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 10:56:44
Message: <4761563c$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> I thought a car was supposed to withstand a 120 MPH collision and not 
> deform too much... My head certainly would deform a tad!

No, it's supposed to deform so much you can't recognise it.

Ever see an Indy 500 crash? The car turns into about 3000 parts, all 
taking away energy so the driver doesn't get hurt.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 11:01:43
Message: <47615767@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:47614f7d$1@news.povray.org...

>
> I thought a car was supposed to withstand a 120 MPH collision and not
> deform too much...

Not at all. Cars are designed to crumple in accidents, the more the better.

If a car didn't deform at all, then the entire force of the collision would
be applied to the occupants. It would be like hitting the ground at 120
km/hour. It's unlikely you'd survive.

Modern cars are built with crumple zones, so that in an accident portions of
the car (not where the occupants would be sitting) crumple, absorbing some
of the energy of impact, and reducing the effect of the collision on the
occupant.

The crumple reduces the magnitude of the deceleration by stretching out the
time from impact to the time when the vehicle is stationary. A longer
deceleration of lower magnitude means less injury.


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From: Leroy
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 11:25:43
Message: <47615CAD.70308@joplin.com>
Sherry Shaw wrote:
> Leroy wrote:
> 
>> I live in Missouri in the middle of the woods.
>>
> 
> Whoa, so do I.  I'm east of Buffalo a ways--whereabouts are you?
> 

I live outsde Joplin near Kansas and I44.


> Didn't get much ice where I live this time, though I did have a dog 
> emergency one night.
> 
> About 4 am, heard the elderly chow/German shepherd/possible grizzly bear 
> barking outside.  My house is on a steep hillside...deck across the 
> front...steps down to a landing, patio *this* way, more steps *that* 
> way...Anyway, the old dog was on the landing at the bottom of the steps, 
> sprawled on his belly on the (wet, not-quite-melting) ice, one hind leg 
> forward and one back, and absolutely couldn't move.  The more he 
> struggled to get up, the more he slid toward a bad fall down the next 
> steps down.
> 
> Couldn't stand up on the nasty stuff, had to crawl/scoot/slide to get to 
> him and drag him away from the steps.  Then crawled back up, grabbed a 
> blanket and a big towel--spread the blanket down the steps, got the 
> towel under the dog's belly to lift him, got him started up the steps on 
> the blanket...Did I mention that this dog weighs about 70 pounds and is 
> quite grumpy?
> 
> Anyway, finally got him rescued and he doesn't seem to have suffered any 
> ill effects.  But we're both REALLY REALLY REALLY tired of ice storms...
> 

Poor Dog! Sounds like a mini adventure to me. That's one you don't have 
to leave home for.


> --Sherry "Mutt Whisperer" Shaw
> 
>


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From: Leroy
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 11:37:43
Message: <47615F7C.7050701@joplin.com>
Gail Shaw wrote:
> The trees are coming down your driveway?? ohoh...
> 
> *g*
> 
> It was the image that came to mind when I read that
> 

It was strange! It was more like the first season of LOST where the 
trees move violently about by some unseen force.
>


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