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Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
>> Sam
>>
>> Poll: What do you like more?
>> a) hard science fiction
>> b) fantastical sci-fi
>> c) space operas
>
> A good mix of all three, depending on the mood. I find it really hard to
> read a) when I'm trying to relax and let my brain fall asleep, but when
> I have a day off it's a great way to spend time.
Hmm, I feel a) is perfect for falling sleepy to. There's only so much
the brain can take before demanding rest. Then, you get to have all
sorts of dreams related to what you just read. Good times.
Sam
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Mike the Elder wrote:
> stbenge <stb### [at] hotmail com> wrote:
> (quoted out of order)
> ....
>> Poll: What do you like more?
>> a) hard science fiction
>> b) fantastical sci-fi
>> c) space operas
>
> Sort Answer: a) & b)... NOT c)
>
> I enjoy works that creatively explore the realm of possibilities, especially
> those that provide a brief excursion, albeit an imaginary one, outside the
> sphere of the mundane. Generally, I'm a fan of "The Classics": Asimov,
> Bradbury, Heinlein, Clarke, Pohl, Kornbluth, del Rey, and the rest of that
> beloved old rouges gallery.
Those last three don't even ring the smallest bell. Could you provide
some favorite titles from these authors? I'm about to embark on a
mission to acquire some creative works, but I don't think your reply
will reach me in time.
> Doug Adams was a true genius and any zarking
> turlingdrome who says otherwise is full of jujuflop and can go straight to
> Belgium! Interesting ideas can come out of either the "hard" or "fantastical"
> styles, so I like them both. Generally, mixing the two styles is a bad idea,
> but a truly inventive writer just might create an exception to just about any
> rule.
The general feeling here seems to be that any work, properly executed,
has the potential for adoration regardless the genre.
> I find "Space Opera" wholly repugnant. The same modern pop culture mass
> marketing mindset that gives us fat-free ice cream and decaffeinated coffee
> brings us idea-free science fiction... "all the spaceships, explosions and
> blinky lights that the public loves, with none of those annoying challenging
> concepts to dilute the nonstop ACTION!"
Having been exposed to the Star Wars trilogy very early in life, I was
given an appreciation for those particular LucasFilms. Maybe it's the
love of nostalgia more than an intellectual love. I guess it's the same
reason I like The Moody Blues an Jefferson Airplane now.
> Like many who have read Heinlein, I often find myself thinking "That's really
> clever!" one moment and "How can you say THAT!" the next. This having been
> said, I present the following excerpts to bridge the gap between threads:
Time to find some new authors....
Sam
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Stephen wrote:
>>>> Stories of how medieval peasants deal with the first knights in
>>>> armor would be SF in my book.
>> OK, so do the Mark Twain bit. That was SF too.
> I've only read "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court" * and yes I would
> class it as SF.
That's what I was referring to. I just couldn't remember the title. :-)
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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stbenge wrote:
> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>> stbenge wrote:
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> Poll: What do you like more?
>>> a) hard science fiction
>>> b) fantastical sci-fi
>>> c) space operas
>>
>> A good mix of all three, depending on the mood. I find it really hard to
>> read a) when I'm trying to relax and let my brain fall asleep, but when
>> I have a day off it's a great way to spend time.
>
> Hmm, I feel a) is perfect for falling sleepy to. There's only so much
> the brain can take before demanding rest. Then, you get to have all
> sorts of dreams related to what you just read. Good times.
>
> Sam
Hard sci-fi doesn't do that to me. I start reading about the science and
then start thinking about how to make it happen.
For graphical depiction of me and hard sci-fi, see http://xkcd.com/356/
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:32:13 -0800, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>>>>> Stories of how medieval peasants deal with the first knights in
>>>>> armor would be SF in my book.
>
>>> OK, so do the Mark Twain bit. That was SF too.
>
>> I've only read "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court" * and yes I would
>> class it as SF.
>
>That's what I was referring to. I just couldn't remember the title. :-)
I'm pleased to be of assistance :)
Regards
Stephen
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:45:58 -0800, stbenge <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> I enjoy works that creatively explore the realm of possibilities, especially
>> those that provide a brief excursion, albeit an imaginary one, outside the
>> sphere of the mundane. Generally, I'm a fan of "The Classics": Asimov,
>> Bradbury, Heinlein, Clarke, Pohl, Kornbluth, del Rey, and the rest of that
>> beloved old rouges gallery.
>
>Those last three don't even ring the smallest bell. Could you provide
>some favorite titles from these authors? I'm about to embark on a
>mission to acquire some creative works, but I don't think your reply
>will reach me in time.
You must try Frederik Pohl one of IMO the greats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederik_Pohl#Collections
The Heechee, Eschaton, Starchild Trilogy (with Jack Williamson) and of course
the Space Merchants, series are recommended.
Cyril M. Kornbluth collaborated with Pohl a lot.
Lester del Rey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_del_Rey#Novels
says it all.
Regards
Stephen
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Thanks, Stephen, for filling in the info whilst I was away. Those unreasonable
people who provide my paycheck sometimes insist that I devote myself to the
silly tasks they assign to me for two or three hours... in a SINGLE day! ;-)
Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:45:58 -0800, stbenge <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>
> >> ... Pohl, Kornbluth, del Rey, and the rest of that
> >> beloved old rouges gallery.
> >
> >Those last three don't even ring the smallest bell. Could you provide
> >some favorite titles from these authors?
>
> You must try Frederik Pohl one of IMO the greats.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederik_Pohl#Collections
>
> The Heechee, Eschaton, Starchild Trilogy (with Jack Williamson) and of course
> the Space Merchants, series are recommended.
>
>
> Cyril M. Kornbluth collaborated with Pohl a lot.
>
>
> Lester del Rey
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_del_Rey#Novels
> says it all.
>
>
> Regards
> Stephen
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Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at vtSPAM.edu"> wrote:
> For graphical depiction of me and hard sci-fi, see http://xkcd.com/356/
terrific webcomic! XD
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Stephen wrote:
>> I prefer hard science fiction. However, given that, I don't consider it
>> to be science fiction unless it's actually about the technology and how
>> people react to it. If you could take the story about war between worlds
>> with blasters, and set it down as war between countries with revolvers,
>> it isn't science fiction. On the other hand, if it's about how
>> technology affects people, even old technology then I'd call it science
>> fiction.
>
> I agree with this bit too.
I almost do. I'd replace "technology" with "science".
>> Stories of how medieval peasants deal with the first knights in
>> armor would be SF in my book.
>
> Sorry, for me this is historical fiction. It did happen, you know. :)
SF is not just about the future...
--
Lisa: Oedipus killed his father and married his mother.
Homer: Who payed for THAT wedding?
/\ /\ /\ /
/ \/ \ u e e n / \/ a w a z
>>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
anl
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stbenge wrote:
> Poll: What do you like more?
> a) hard science fiction
> b) fantastical sci-fi
> c) space operas
Someone just recommended to me "The Man From Earth":
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/
Independent movie, I think. Made this year. As you can see, the ratings
are quite high. Anyone seen it?
(No spoilers here, but if you want to avoid them, don't read the plot
summary on the IMDB page).
I liked it, and generally like this "kind" of science fiction. I used
to call it "philosophical" science fiction - a subgenre of hard science
fiction (as Darren defined it). These kinds of stories don't actually
have much of a story - it's mostly exploring certain ideas or concepts.
Oh, and just curious if anyone here would rather this movie not be
labeled as science fiction?
--
Lisa: Oedipus killed his father and married his mother.
Homer: Who payed for THAT wedding?
/\ /\ /\ /
/ \/ \ u e e n / \/ a w a z
>>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
anl
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