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"Gilles Tran" <gitran_nospam_@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> 473ae9cd$1@news.povray.org...
> > Well OK, let me put it this way... If *I* ask the owner of the original
> > track for the unmixed elements, they're going to tell me to naff off. (Or,
> > more likely, ignore me completely.) So what do all these other people have
> > that I don't?
>
> Starts with an M, ends with a Y.
>
> G.
Let me see ... a MONKEY perhaps?
B.
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scott wrote:
>> In order to remix a track, you must (usually) possess the original
>> unmixed elements. But how on earth do you get those?
>
> You might like to try out averaging the L+R tracks and see what you
> get. Or taking the difference. Often it has the effect of doing some
> nice selective filtering...
Otherwise known as "center cancel" filtering... ;-) Doesn't always work
though.
(While we're on the subject, a lot of tracks sound very different if
played backwards. A few sound almost exactly the same though.)
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Bruno Cabasson wrote:
>> Starts with an M, ends with a Y.
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>> G.
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> Let me see ... a MONKEY perhaps?
I'll give you 3 rhesus and 2 macaque if you give me the original tracks
to your music. I'll throw in a lemur if you give me exclusive rights.
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> (While we're on the subject, a lot of tracks sound very different if
> played backwards. A few sound almost exactly the same though.)
I remember listening to a *real* backmasking of a crowd cheering at
the end of a song, the singer was talking to the audience... but when
heard forward you couldn't hear the singer talking at all. Maybe
just a little extra white noise on the crowd cheering.
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> I'll give you 3 rhesus and 2 macaque if you give me the original tracks
> to your music. I'll throw in a lemur if you give me exclusive rights.
I'm Rhesus negative...
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Tim Attwood wrote:
>> (While we're on the subject, a lot of tracks sound very different if
>> played backwards. A few sound almost exactly the same though.)
> I remember listening to a *real* backmasking of a crowd cheering at
> the end of a song, the singer was talking to the audience... but when
> heard forward you couldn't hear the singer talking at all. Maybe
> just a little extra white noise on the crowd cheering.
It's interesting how when you play somebody's voice backwards, there
always seems to be more syllables than in the forward case...
ELO seem to like hiding backwards messages in their songs. (Especially
on their album "Secret Messages" - no surprisees there then!) Also Pink
Floyd now and then...
I swear to God, if you take Golden Brown and play it backwards, the lead
singer clearly says "...and the flowers"
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:473addd1$1@news.povray.org...
> In order to remix a track, you must (usually) possess the original
> unmixed elements. But how on earth do you get those? It would seem
> extremely difficult to obtain such material.
>
> Any yet, purchase any CD bearing the title "Ultimate Trance Experience
> 2007" or similar and roughly 80% of the tracks will be remixes of
> remixes of reworkings of remixes of older tracks. So clearly *somebody*
> knows how to get hold of this material...
Nine Inch Nails has started to give this stuff away.
http://yearzero.nin.com/ then go to the bottom of the page "Multitrack Audio
Files". I downloaded the files for "Me, I'm Not" and loaded it into Logic
for kicks. I haven't done anything with it yet though.
He also did it for some songs from a previous album, but I can't find them
at the moment.
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