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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 6 Nov 2007 10:13:32
Message: <4730849c$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> Also, next to the stairs, I found this:
> 
>   OVERALL RISE OF STAIR 3825mm
> 
>   EACH RISE: 165mm (x23)
>   EACH GOING: 250mm.
>   BALUSTRADE TO BE TOP FIXED.
>   DESIGN TO COMPLY WITH B.REGS
>   PART K & M.
> 
> I just love the way they quote the size of a flight of stairs in 
> millimeters! I mean, it rises 12 feet up, and we care about 25mm?

Hey, I just noticed. The individual stairs are numbered. As in, from 1 
to 23. Wow!

There's also a small barely-readable table that says

    C   ARCHIVE STORE / INST. ROOMS RESETOUT  01.10.07  SH   DS
    B   DOOR REFS ADDED. DIMS UPDATED         28.08.07  SH   DS
    A   ISSUED FOR COMMENT                    15.08.07  SH   DS
   REV  DESCRIPTION                           DATE      DWN  CKD

I notice that in the middle of the building there's a line of what look 
like H-section girders. Each one has a dashed line going through it, 
ending in a unique letter on the outside of the building.

(To give you some idea, the lines C, D, E and F are all parallel and 
equidistant. However, F and G are *not* parallel. The exterior walls on 

particular, this means that the corridore to my office and my server 
room has non-parallel walls. Let's hope I don't need to wheel anything 
large through there!)

There's also lots of little enigmatic annotations such as

   BELOW GROUND
   DRANAGE CONNECTION
   FOR WHB

and

   STUB STACK

and

   sinks/washers
   see fittings

and

   RWP
   INTO
   BG.

Ooo, I just found a small space that looks like this:

   +-----------+

   |           |
   |           |
   |   RISER   |
   |           |
   |           |
   |           |

   +-----------+

Hahahah! Some poor **** is going to have great fun building THAT...

There's also lots of circles with numbers in them. Or bisected circles 
with pairs of numbers in them.

I'm sure all this means something to the guys drawing the plans. ;-)


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 6 Nov 2007 11:16:01
Message: <47309341@news.povray.org>

> Ooo, I just found a small space that looks like this:
> 
>   +-----------+

>   |           |
>   |           |
>   |   RISER   |
>   |           |
>   |           |
>   |           |

>   +-----------+
> 
> Hahahah! Some poor **** is going to have great fun building THAT...
> 

What the...


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 6 Nov 2007 11:16:46
Message: <4730936e@news.povray.org>
You should ask for 3D plans in .pov format. Or make them?


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 6 Nov 2007 11:22:29
Message: <473094c5$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> You should ask for 3D plans in .pov format. Or make them?

OMFG... POV-Ray FTW!! :-D


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 6 Nov 2007 11:58:26
Message: <47309d32@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Invisible escribió:
>> Ooo, I just found a small space that looks like this:
>>
>>   +-----------+
>>   | 87°    94°|
>>   |           |
>>   |           |
>>   |   RISER   |
>>   |           |
>>   |           |
>>   |           |
>>   | 90°       |
>>   +-----------+
>>
>> Hahahah! Some poor **** is going to have great fun building THAT...
>>
> 
> What the...

Should probably be more like:

+--..__
|87     ''--.._
|            94|
|              |
|90            |
+--------------+

...still not too fun to build.

-- 
Tim Cook
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-empyrean

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 6 Nov 2007 12:23:52
Message: <op.t1drxlx8c3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:40:26 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

> I'm just sitting here looking over the plans for our new building at  
> work. It looks roughly like a tangled maze of lines, encrusted with text.
>
> Some of the text is in fact almost unreadable because it's so tiny. Even  
> when printed out, I can bearly read it. I had a look at the PDF file,  
> and it says the document dimensions are "23.39 x 33.11 inches". A quick  
> trip to Google tells me that's 594.106 x 840.994 mm. (Wow, that sounds  
> pretty big!) A quick check on Wikipedia tells me that's exactly A1. (!!)
>
> So, where the plan says "1:50 scale", it's really "1:400" when printed  
> on A4 instead of A1.

Taking into account that the software may have 'fixed' it to print within  
your printer margins.

> The drawing contains a number of items of interesting text. For example,  
> this is "DWG NO 2222.173". It is described as "GROUND FLOOR PLAN, OFFICE  
> B SETTING OUT".
>
> Also, next to the stairs, I found this:
>
>    OVERALL RISE OF STAIR 3825mm
>
>    EACH RISE: 165mm (x23)
>    EACH GOING: 250mm.
>    BALUSTRADE TO BE TOP FIXED.
>    DESIGN TO COMPLY WITH B.REGS
>    PART K & M.
>
> I just love the way they quote the size of a flight of stairs in  
> millimeters! I mean, it rises 12 feet up, and we care about 25mm?

Yes if you want it to be 12 feet up when it races the top.

> I have no idea what "BALUSTRADE" is. (Assuming I've even read it right  
> from the tiny writing on the printout.)

It's that bit that stops you from falling off the side of the stairs.

> Similarly, ever head of "BRISE SOLEIL"? Because apparently this building  
> will have *lots* of those.

Sun-shade.

> But most of all, it's just numbers. *Millions* of numbers. Almost every  
> line has a second line next to it with some numbers. Many of the corners  

> there are dashed lines *everywhere*.
>
> (I just reliased... Every single doorway in the place has a unique ID  
> written on it. Wow.)

Yup

> There are also all sorts of symbols that look like they probably mean  
> something to a building engineer. Means nothing to me though! Heh.

Yup again

> It's certainly interesting anyway...

Looking at building plans is always fun.

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 6 Nov 2007 13:24:01
Message: <4730b141$1@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:
> And lo on Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:40:26 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did 
> spake, saying:
> 
>> I'm just sitting here looking over the plans for our new building at 
>> work. It looks roughly like a tangled maze of lines, encrusted with text.
>>
>> Some of the text is in fact almost unreadable because it's so tiny. 
>> Even when printed out, I can bearly read it. I had a look at the PDF 
>> file, and it says the document dimensions are "23.39 x 33.11 inches". 
>> A quick trip to Google tells me that's 594.106 x 840.994 mm. (Wow, 
>> that sounds pretty big!) A quick check on Wikipedia tells me that's 
>> exactly A1. (!!)
>>
>> So, where the plan says "1:50 scale", it's really "1:400" when printed 
>> on A4 instead of A1.
> 
> Taking into account that the software may have 'fixed' it to print 
> within your printer margins.

True...

Perhaps that's why part of the building is missing? Or maybe it's just 
that this particular drawing only includes that part, I'm not sure.

>> It's certainly interesting anyway...
> 
> Looking at building plans is always fun.

I'm glad someone else thinks so.

I have no idea what half the stuff means, but I'm nosey anyway! ;-)


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 6 Nov 2007 13:24:50
Message: <4730b172@news.povray.org>
Tim Cook wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> Invisible escribió:
>>> Ooo, I just found a small space that looks like this:
>>>
>>>   +-----------+
>>>   | 87°    94°|
>>>   |           |
>>>   |           |
>>>   |   RISER   |
>>>   |           |
>>>   |           |
>>>   |           |
>>>   | 90°       |
>>>   +-----------+
>>>
>>> Hahahah! Some poor **** is going to have great fun building THAT...
>>>
>>
>> What the...
> 
> Should probably be more like:
> 
> +--..__
> |87     ''--.._
> |            94|
> |              |
> |90            |
> +--------------+
> 
> ...still not too fun to build.

That's a tilt of a tad more than 4°, but essentially yes. ;-)

(On the paper it sure looks like a perfect square. But there we are.)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 6 Nov 2007 13:29:56
Message: <4730b2a4$1@news.povray.org>
>> That's because people who build the stairs works with that order
>> of tolerance (mm).
> 
> So... what the hell do you do if you build some stairs, and the sement 
> sinks by 0.4 mm while drying? (A perfectly likely outcome.) Then each 
> step might be 0.4 mm out...! No noes! o_O

Who secures stairs in place by resting them on unset concrete? :-S


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 6 Nov 2007 13:31:20
Message: <4730b2f8$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>>> That's because people who build the stairs works with that order
>>> of tolerance (mm).
>>
>> So... what the hell do you do if you build some stairs, and the sement 
>> sinks by 0.4 mm while drying? (A perfectly likely outcome.) Then each 
>> step might be 0.4 mm out...! No noes! o_O
> 
> Who secures stairs in place by resting them on unset concrete? :-S

I was thinking more that the *stairs* are made of concrete...


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