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From: Sherry Shaw
Subject: Re: Yeah, that again...
Date: 31 Oct 2007 09:44:16
Message: <472894c0@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> 
> The computers will be unplugged, moved from one building to another, and 
> plugged back in.
> 

A couple of months ago, a nice young network tech of my acquaintance [1] 
took a job in another state and moved out of the family home. [2]  His 
mother [3] and her significant other decided to move the SO's computer 
to the son's former bedroom.  All they had to do was unplug everything, 
carry it through a couple of rooms and down the hall, and plug it in 
again.  Shortly thereafter, my phone began to ring.

After explaining repeatedly that programmers don't change light bulbs 
[4], I agreed to investigate the matter. [5]  It seems that the video 
card was unseated [6], the keyboard was plugged into the PS2 mouse port 
[7], the speakers were plugged into the microphone jack [8], the USB 
mouse was plugged into the port that just didn't like it very much [9], 
this was, of course, an optical mouse that, oddly enough, was unable to 
detect movement when it was placed on a slick, shiny, utterly monochrome 
surface [10]...well, you get my drift.

NEVER underestimate the power of random human silliness.  ALWAYS TEST 
EVERYTHING.

--Sherry Shaw


[1] Okay, my nephew.
[2] I imagine he heaved a big sigh of relief.
[3] Apparently my sister.
[4] We are, however, fond of talking frogs.
[5] As in "crawl under the desk and start taking things apart."
[6] But the SO would never, never, never yank really hard on the monitor 
cable without first unscrewing the screws...
[7] An easy mistake, if you plug things in with your eyes closed.
[8] See [7].
[9] For every USB gadget, there's one USB port that doesn't like it very 
much.
[10] "But it's an optical mouse!  It doesn't need a mousepad!"

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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Yeah, that again...
Date: 31 Oct 2007 09:57:26
Message: <472897d6$1@news.povray.org>
Sherry Shaw wrote:
[snip hilarity]

It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Yeah, that again...
Date: 31 Oct 2007 10:39:05
Message: <4728a199@news.povray.org>
Sherry Shaw <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> For every USB gadget, there's one USB port that doesn't like it very 
> much.

  Is that some kind of Murphy's law?-)

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Yeah, that again...
Date: 31 Oct 2007 12:02:31
Message: <op.t02mtzauc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:55:12 -0000, Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull>  
did spake, saying:

> I'm surprised nobody commented on this one...
>
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/archives/153

I did think about it, but it would simply have been along the lines of  
"Leave it in and see if anyone notices"

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Yeah, that again...
Date: 31 Oct 2007 16:02:12
Message: <4728ed54$1@news.povray.org>
> Is the network numbering scheme the same, or does it change?

Same.

> Same number of subnets, same routers, etc?

Still 1 subnet, still 1 router. Still with all the same configuration.

> Server IP addresses stay the same?

Also staying the same.

> ISTR you said it's all happening at once, so maybe these things aren't 
> changing.

The *only* thing that might change is our external IP address. If so, 
that will require reconfigurating the router. (And the other VPN 
endpoints it talks to.) The nodes on the LAN won't care...


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Yeah, that again...
Date: 31 Oct 2007 16:02:49
Message: <4728ed79$1@news.povray.org>
Sherry Shaw wrote:

> NEVER underestimate the power of random human silliness.  ALWAYS TEST 
> EVERYTHING.

That is why I will personally be doing all the disconnecting and 
reconnecting... ;-)


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Yeah, that again...
Date: 31 Oct 2007 16:03:59
Message: <4728edbf$1@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:
> And lo on Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:55:12 -0000, Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> 
> did spake, saying:
> 
>> I'm surprised nobody commented on this one...
>>
>> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/archives/153
> 
> I did think about it, but it would simply have been along the lines of 
> "Leave it in and see if anyone notices"

Hey, it's QA! Trust me - they WILL notice.

(The last document I sent their way was rejected due to my typing "me" 
instead of "my". 25 page document, and they rejected it for that...!)


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Yeah, that again...
Date: 1 Nov 2007 07:39:35
Message: <4729c907$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>> Is the network numbering scheme the same, or does it change?
> 
> Same.
> 
>> Same number of subnets, same routers, etc?
> 
> Still 1 subnet, still 1 router. Still with all the same configuration.
> 
>> Server IP addresses stay the same?
> 
> Also staying the same.
> 
>> ISTR you said it's all happening at once, so maybe these things aren't 
>> changing.
> 
> The *only* thing that might change is our external IP address. If so, 
> that will require reconfigurating the router. (And the other VPN 
> endpoints it talks to.) The nodes on the LAN won't care...


I see two thins that need checked.

Check that the network connectivity is actually functional.  After all 
you are disconnecting a network cable.

Check how clean the QA butts are (you've even mentioned a cute one in 
there).  After all, they don't like trouble.







More so - does QA understand the change that is happening and what they 
are asking for?  Too many times a non-techie person asks the techie guy 
for something that is stupid because they do not understand the technology.

Or, it could be that QA really does have to have it retested for 
certification or something similar?

Here's a good chance.  Find cute QA girl and have a conversation about 
what it is that QA is really after ;-)



Tom


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Yeah, that again...
Date: 1 Nov 2007 11:31:24
Message: <4729ff5c$1@news.povray.org>

> Sherry Shaw wrote:
> [snip hilarity]
> 
> It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.

Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Yeah, that again...
Date: 1 Nov 2007 11:35:38
Message: <472a005a@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

>> Sherry Shaw wrote:
>> [snip hilarity]
>>
>> It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
>> ingenious.
> 
> Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.

The goal of science is to build better mousetraps.
The goal of nature is to build better mice.


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