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scott wrote:
>>> Where do you get this "proper boot CD" form btw?
>>
>> Almost any linux installer CD will do.
>
> What, to remove the admin password of a WinXP installation? Would be
> useful to know how to do that occasionally.
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/index.html
(You can use his ready made boot CD/FD or you can
use his chntpw with Knopix.)
--
Tor Olav
http://subcube.com
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Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> Something like BartPE would let you do the same with a Windows Live CD.
Except you'd wind up changing the password on the hive that came from
the CD, not the hive on the hard drive.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Remember the good old days, when we
used to complain about cryptography
being export-restricted?
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:35:20 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>> (fdisk /mbr should get rid of Grub from the MBR, BTW)
>
> People who don't know how to use linux shouldn't use it, IMO.
That doesn't really help the userbase grow, though.
> Just a couple of days ago someone in irc commented that he needed
> to reinstall linux because he had forgotten the root password. Well,
> someone who knew better saved him some hours of useless work.
And you can bet that he won't forget the solution next time around. At
least he had the sense to ask for help before wiping the system and
starting over.
That's how a lot of people learn - by making mistakes. Nothing wrong
with that - it's not the most efficient way to learn, but it tends to be
retained better than trying to learn from other people's experiences,
books, etc.
Jim
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:43:55 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Linux developers and advocates couldn't care less if someone else uses
> linux. They are making linux for *themselves*, not for everybody.
Um, that's something Linus has *personally* stated in several interviews.
But that doesn't extend to even a majority of the developers - of course,
if you have some numbers to back up the statement that the majority do
feel that way, I'd love to see those numbers.
When I see major kernel developers like Greg Kroah-Hartmann offering to
write drivers for hardware for free, that tells me that he's looking to
increase adoption, and he's certainly not alone. Look at the folks over
at freedesktop.org who have been doing studies on interface development
and whatnot. You don't do that type of research because it's a hobby.
That particular statement that you're quoting may have been true 5 years
ago, but I doubt it's true today.
Jim
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:19:23 -0400, Warp wrote:
> It would, quite naturally, not make too much sense that if you forgot
> the root password, you would be completely stuck and the computer would
> become completely unmaintainable. There must, of course, be some way of
> resetting the root password (given that you have direct physical access
> to the computer). It's just common sense.
At least the initial release of Windows Server 2003, if you lost the
admin password for the system and b0rked the domain, you couldn't get
in. You *had* to reformat and start over - had it happen to me, with
Microsoft consultants on-site helping me.
Jim
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:19:23 -0400, Warp wrote:
>> > It doesn't matter which OS you are using.
>
>> This would be factually incorrect also, unless you believe ...
>
> You mean some OS can stop someone from booting from a CD and wiping
> the HDs, for example?
My brand-new HP Pavillion has settings in the hardware that do just that,
in fact. Password protect the bios and disallow booting from any device
other than the hard drive.
Jim
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:01:11 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> If I can reset the root password on the machine on my desktop, then I
> can change the password on your account, log in as you,
Arguably, if you're talking specifically "root", you're talking POSIX
(right? *nix at least), in which case it's unnecessary to change the
password on the user's account, just su user....
Jim
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:56:07 +0200, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>> Something like BartPE would let you do the same with a Windows Live CD.
>
> Except you'd wind up changing the password on the hive that came from
> the CD, not the hive on the hard drive.
Any half-decent registry tool lets you load a different registry hive.
Trust me, a Windows XP password can easily be reset from a boot-CD; I have
done it many times.
--
FE
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> > You mean some OS can stop someone from booting from a CD and wiping
> > the HDs, for example?
> My brand-new HP Pavillion has settings in the hardware that do just that,
The hardware is not the OS.
> in fact. Password protect the bios and disallow booting from any device
> other than the hard drive.
Bios settings can be reset, and hard drives can be physically transferred
to other computers.
Bios passwords are only a deterrent. They are not secure.
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> Bios settings can be reset, and hard drives can be physically transferred
> to other computers.
Supposedly, the new Vista full-drive encryption prevents this, storing
the password somewhere on the motherboard or some such, even if you
chose not to have a USB key.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Remember the good old days, when we
used to complain about cryptography
being export-restricted?
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