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From: gregjohn
Subject: Wonderful products from microsoft
Date: 3 Jan 2008 07:55:01
Message: <web.477cdaa098278ce534d207310@news.povray.org>
The coolest Microsoft application ever, IMNSHO,  ***was***  Microsoft Photo
Editor.  The HDD died on the WinXP laptop I use in my place of employment. With
the new HDD came the latest suite of Office products.  To my chagrin,  Microsoft
Photo Editor is gone and replaced by Microsoft Office Picture Manager.  It is
terrible.

In my day job, I have to resize, copy and paste images into Rich Text Editors
dozens of times a week. I look at thumbnails in various directories of a file
manager, then open the few that are relevant to a report I am writing and then
make the changes.  MPE was pretty cool for this.  GIMP 2.4 is a little bit
better than previous versions, but it's still too stupid to know to "keep
single instance."

MOPM on the other hand, doesn't allow one to paste the copied image to another
app, which I find completely asinine. (Hellloooo, some folks could actually be
trying to paste to Powerpoint, yes?)   What it looks like is the result of an
executive saying, "Design a product that will keep barely computer-literate
folks off of flickr and Picasaweb."  It has the Vista zombie look and feel to
it, in that it prevents you from having full power to do what you want with
your images, except for the purposes it purposes you to have.

I've tried Picasa as a substitute, but it's a little bit clunky.

Any other products out there?


(Notepad, btw, is a cool app.  All the time I'm copying stuff which comes with
all kinds of unwanted rich text or other garbage.  Sometimes, "All I want is
the ASCII, ma'am.")


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Wonderful products from microsoft
Date: 3 Jan 2008 08:06:03
Message: <477cddbb$1@news.povray.org>
gregjohn wrote:

> Any other products out there?

I use IrfanView a lot - but I don't know if it does what you want...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Vincent Le Chevalier
Subject: Re: Wonderful products from microsoft
Date: 3 Jan 2008 08:16:20
Message: <477ce024$1@news.povray.org>
I use XnView to manage my images. I don't remember how well copy and 
paste to other apps work on Windows, though...

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/pierre.g/xnview/enhome.html

-- 
Vincent


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Wonderful products from microsoft
Date: 3 Jan 2008 08:28:13
Message: <477ce2ed$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> gregjohn wrote:
> 
>> Any other products out there?
> 
> I use IrfanView a lot - but I don't know if it does what you want...
> 

I second the use


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From: Ross
Subject: Re: Wonderful products from microsoft
Date: 3 Jan 2008 09:11:39
Message: <477ced1b$1@news.povray.org>
"gregjohn" <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
> It has the Vista zombie look and feel to
> it, in that it prevents you from having full power to do what you want 
> with
> your images, except for the purposes it purposes you to have.
>

God help you. I was trying to make little things (coupon-like) to insert 
into a couple cards for christmas (much like shay printing out photos of his 
gifts since he waited too long to buy them). This on my parents computer 
which has been simply an email/MS Office computer for years. I was reduced 
to using MS Paint and almost threw the computer into a snow pile. MS Office 
wouldn't work with the images correctly, it was bizzare. Any text I typed on 
the same document that the image was in wouldn't show in print preview or 
print. I kept lying to myself saying it will only take a few more minutes so 
it's pointless to download Gimp.


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From: Dan Byers
Subject: Re: Wonderful products from microsoft
Date: 3 Jan 2008 09:45:00
Message: <web.477cf3b9bff9753da8d0b25a0@news.povray.org>
If all you're doing is resizing images, IrfanView should work just fine...
--
Dan
GoofyGraffix.com


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Wonderful products from microsoft
Date: 3 Jan 2008 10:08:59
Message: <477cfa8b@news.povray.org>
gregjohn <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> (Notepad, btw, is a cool app.  All the time I'm copying stuff which comes with
> all kinds of unwanted rich text or other garbage.  Sometimes, "All I want is
> the ASCII, ma'am.")

  It's not cool if you can't open a file (which might have non-printable
characters, different types of newlines, etc), make a modification and then
save it without the program modifying anything else than what you modified
explicitly.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Wonderful products from microsoft
Date: 3 Jan 2008 11:15:01
Message: <web.477d0941bff9753d773c9a3e0@news.povray.org>
you're joking, right?  ok, I'll bite:  I loved the IE javascript debugger when I
used to do javascripting on the platform.  Something like:  "You have an error
on line 148" when actually the .js file only had about 60... thankfully,
Firefox gave the exact scoop...


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From: Tom Galvin
Subject: Re: Wonderful products from microsoft
Date: 3 Jan 2008 12:19:33
Message: <477d1925$1@news.povray.org>
Ross wrote:
> I was reduced to using MS Paint and almost threw the computer into 
> a snow pile. MS Office wouldn't work with the images correctly, 
> it was bizzare. Any text I typed on the same document that the image
> was in wouldn't show in print preview or print. I kept lying to myself
> saying it will only take a few more minutes so it's pointless to
> download Gimp. 
> 

Microsoft has reached it's tipping point with Office 2007/Vista.


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From: Mike the Elder
Subject: Re: Wonderful products from microsoft
Date: 3 Jan 2008 14:00:01
Message: <web.477d2f75bff9753de2b2e7080@news.povray.org>
Tom Galvin <tom### [at] impnospamorg> wrote:
> Ross wrote:
> > I was reduced to using MS Paint and almost threw the computer into
> > a snow pile. MS Office wouldn't work with the images correctly,
> > it was bizzare. Any text I typed on the same document that the image
> > was in wouldn't show in print preview or print. I kept lying to myself
> > saying it will only take a few more minutes so it's pointless to
> > download Gimp.
> >
>
> Microsoft has reached it's tipping point with Office 2007/Vista.

From thefreedictionary.com:


Lexicographers are smarter than I thought.  ;-)

Best Regards,
Mike C.


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