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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Problems with Object Collection uploader
Date: 16 Jun 2013 18:50:01
Message: <web.51be079e7cbb476878641e0c0@news.povray.org>
My past few times updating RoundEdge uploaded only 20 files each time.  The one
change on my end I could think of was that I had switched from Windows to Linux.
 At the first failure, the Web browser I used was either Opera or Konqueror, so
I then tried Chrome.  Same problem.  I then looked at my Linux configuration,
but couldn't find anything relevant, other than possibly a limitation of 1024
simultaneous open files (which certainly couldn't have been responsible for this
problem).

Last night, I tried an upload from Windows 7, something I was loathe to do, as I
find Windows 7 a stressful and infuriating experience.  Even worse, the upload
screen would not function properly in Chrome, so I had to resort to Internet
Explorer.  Same problem.

Here are my findings:
 - The 20 file upload limitation is independent of the Web Browser.
 - The 20 file upload limitation is independent of operating system.
 - This has not always been a problem.  Some contributions from 2009 or
   earlier (including version 1.0 of RoundEdge) have more than 20 files.
 - The file upload buttons ("Choose File") do not work in Chrome for
   Windows 7.  They work fine in Chrome for Linux.
 - Colons are not allowed in the description field!  Is there a reason
   for this?

Unrelated:
 - Checking the server for updates from the README file fails if the
   contributor's username contains spaces.

I hope someone can be found soon to take over administration of the Object
Collection server, so that these problems can be addressed.


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Problems with Object Collection uploader
Date: 17 Jun 2013 09:16:55
Message: <51bed407$1@news.povray.org>
Le 16/06/2013 20:44, Cousin Ricky nous fit lire :
> My past few times updating RoundEdge uploaded only 20 files each time.  The one
> change on my end I could think of was that I had switched from Windows to Linux.
>  At the first failure, the Web browser I used was either Opera or Konqueror, so
> I then tried Chrome.  Same problem.  I then looked at my Linux configuration,
> but couldn't find anything relevant, other than possibly a limitation of 1024
> simultaneous open files (which certainly couldn't have been responsible for this
> problem).
> 
> Last night, I tried an upload from Windows 7, something I was loathe to do, as I
> find Windows 7 a stressful and infuriating experience.  Even worse, the upload
> screen would not function properly in Chrome, so I had to resort to Internet
> Explorer.  Same problem.
> 
> Here are my findings:
>  - The 20 file upload limitation is independent of the Web Browser.
>  - The 20 file upload limitation is independent of operating system.
>  - This has not always been a problem.  Some contributions from 2009 or
>    earlier (including version 1.0 of RoundEdge) have more than 20 files.

From previous investigation, the uploading process stops as soon as one
filename is not conform: only lower case, no special characters.
The sad thing is that the check is performed only when sending the page,
and the feedback in case of error is not that good (and already
processed files are kept, IIRC).

I did not find any limit of 20 in scripts, but may be it is more related
to the length-limit of the URL ? or something else.
I need to investigate.


>  - The file upload buttons ("Choose File") do not work in Chrome for
>    Windows 7.  They work fine in Chrome for Linux.
>  - Colons are not allowed in the description field!  Is there a reason
>    for this?

Colons are not alone on that (# & { | } [ ] < > / and \ are also not
allowed). semi-colons are ok, as well as dot.
I do not know the reason to not allow : in description, maybe due to
protection against url-spamming, or avoiding pre-formatted text. or just
no reason (anyway, only classical-7 bits ascii)

Is there a reason you need a colon ?

> 
> Unrelated:
>  - Checking the server for updates from the README file fails if the
>    contributor's username contains spaces.
> 
> I hope someone can be found soon to take over administration of the Object
> Collection server, so that these problems can be addressed.
> 
>


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Problems with Object Collection uploader
Date: 19 Jun 2013 13:59:10
Message: <51c1b92e@news.povray.org>
Le 17/06/2013 11:16, Le_Forgeron nous fit lire :
> Le 16/06/2013 20:44, Cousin Ricky nous fit lire :
>> My past few times updating RoundEdge uploaded only 20 files each time.  The one
>> change on my end I could think of was that I had switched from Windows to Linux.
>>  At the first failure, the Web browser I used was either Opera or Konqueror, so
>> I then tried Chrome.  Same problem.  I then looked at my Linux configuration,
>> but couldn't find anything relevant, other than possibly a limitation of 1024
>> simultaneous open files (which certainly couldn't have been responsible for this
>> problem).
>>
>> Last night, I tried an upload from Windows 7, something I was loathe to do, as I
>> find Windows 7 a stressful and infuriating experience.  Even worse, the upload
>> screen would not function properly in Chrome, so I had to resort to Internet
>> Explorer.  Same problem.
>>
>> Here are my findings:
>>  - The 20 file upload limitation is independent of the Web Browser.
>>  - The 20 file upload limitation is independent of operating system.
>>  - This has not always been a problem.  Some contributions from 2009 or
>>    earlier (including version 1.0 of RoundEdge) have more than 20 files.
> 
> From previous investigation, the uploading process stops as soon as one
> filename is not conform: only lower case, no special characters.
> The sad thing is that the check is performed only when sending the page,
> and the feedback in case of error is not that good (and already
> processed files are kept, IIRC).
> 
> I did not find any limit of 20 in scripts, but may be it is more related
> to the length-limit of the URL ? or something else.
> I need to investigate.
> 

Indeed, nothing in the code, but the default configuration of php on the
server.

> 
>>  - The file upload buttons ("Choose File") do not work in Chrome for
>>    Windows 7.  They work fine in Chrome for Linux.
>>  - Colons are not allowed in the description field!  Is there a reason
>>    for this?
> 
> Colons are not alone on that (# & { | } [ ] < > / and \ are also not
> allowed). semi-colons are ok, as well as dot.
> I do not know the reason to not allow : in description, maybe due to
> protection against url-spamming, or avoiding pre-formatted text. or just
> no reason (anyway, only classical-7 bits ascii)
> 
> Is there a reason you need a colon ?
>


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Problems with Object Collection uploader
Date: 19 Jun 2013 21:55:01
Message: <web.51c227c7dd2a142478641e0c0@news.povray.org>
Le_Forgeron <jgr### [at] freefr> wrote:
>
> From previous investigation, the uploading process stops as soon as one
> filename is not conform: only lower case, no special characters.

My filenames are all vanilla lowercase a-z, 0-9, underscore, and the occasional
hyphen.  No hyphens in my latest attempt.

> I did not find any limit of 20 in scripts, but may be it is more related
> to the length-limit of the URL ? or something else.
> I need to investigate.

Such a limit would not make sense in the scripts.  Someone would have had to
deliberately set the limit at least 2 years after the Object Collection was up
and running; but some of Chris Bartlett's contributions have more than 20 files,
so it wouldn't have made sense for /him/ to do it.

I don't know much about PHP, but an unintentional configuration change doesn't
sound implausible, perhaps during an upgrade.

> Is there a reason you need a colon ?

This was my intended description for RoundEdge 1.3:
________________________________________________________________________________

A set of macros and functions to facilitate modeling of rounded edges with CSG,
isosurfaces, and blobs.

In version 1.3:
 - Some of the functions are given more intuitive names.
 - Important notes are added to the documentation concerning sqrt() calls with
the alternate isosurface blob function, and the demo scene is changed
accordingly.
________________________________________________________________________________


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Problems with Object Collection uploader
Date: 20 Jun 2013 11:22:45
Message: <51c2e605$1@news.povray.org>
Le 19/06/2013 23:51, Cousin Ricky nous fit lire :
> Le_Forgeron <jgr### [at] freefr> wrote:
>>
>> From previous investigation, the uploading process stops as soon as one
>> filename is not conform: only lower case, no special characters.
> 
> My filenames are all vanilla lowercase a-z, 0-9, underscore, and the occasional
> hyphen.  No hyphens in my latest attempt.
> 

Good :-)
>> I did not find any limit of 20 in scripts, but may be it is more related
>> to the length-limit of the URL ? or something else.
>> I need to investigate.
> 
> Such a limit would not make sense in the scripts.  Someone would have had to
> deliberately set the limit at least 2 years after the Object Collection was up
> and running; but some of Chris Bartlett's contributions have more than 20 files,
> so it wouldn't have made sense for /him/ to do it.

It seems that 20 is the default of php.
(well, not "seems", "is", at least for the current version on various
systems)
For the time being, that's the limiting factor.
If you have more than 20 files for a contribution, I would suggest that
you create the contribution (even if only 20 files get in) and then post
a message in this group with a pointer to the missing files so that I
add then manually afterwards.

> 
> I don't know much about PHP, but an unintentional configuration change doesn't
> sound implausible, perhaps during an upgrade.
> 
>> Is there a reason you need a colon ?
> 
> This was my intended description for RoundEdge 1.3:
> ________________________________________________________________________________
> 
> A set of macros and functions to facilitate modeling of rounded edges with CSG,
> isosurfaces, and blobs.
> 
> In version 1.3:
>  - Some of the functions are given more intuitive names.
>  - Important notes are added to the documentation concerning sqrt() calls with
> the alternate isosurface blob function, and the demo scene is changed
> accordingly.
> ________________________________________________________________________________

The colon has been added in the description of 1.3 of rounded edges.
I do not have the power to allow the colon in the submission form :-/


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Problems with Object Collection uploader
Date: 24 Jun 2013 11:28:30
Message: <51c82d5e$1@news.povray.org>
A quick note: the upload limit of 20 is now removed (well, far higher,
but do not abuse that :-) ).

Thanks Cousin Ricky for reporting the problem.


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Problems with Object Collection uploader
Date: 29 Jun 2013 19:55:01
Message: <web.51cf3aeddd2a1424540235480@news.povray.org>
Le_Forgeron <jgr### [at] freefr> wrote:
> If you have more than 20 files for a contribution, I would suggest that
> you create the contribution (even if only 20 files get in) and then post
> a message in this group with a pointer to the missing files so that I
> add then manually afterwards.

I have posted the missing files to povray.binaries.images.


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Problems with Object Collection uploader
Date: 29 Jun 2013 22:55:00
Message: <web.51cf651ddd2a1424540235480@news.povray.org>
Le_Forgeron <jgr### [at] freefr> wrote:
> A quick note: the upload limit of 20 is now removed (well, far higher,
> but do not abuse that :-) ).

This will be hard to abuse.  Uploading my 36 files was tedious enough!

ASSuming that the previous administrator would not set a bad example, 53 files
is not abuse, because that's how many files are in Chris Bartlett's Rope module.

> Thanks Cousin Ricky for reporting the problem.

You're welcome.


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