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From: John Pye
Subject: Measuring the reflection from a parabolic mirror?
Date: 15 Nov 2007 20:25:01
Message: <web.473cf03c8601ac8d6fd0facd0@news.povray.org>
Hi all

This is a followup to a question I asked a few months ago about the modelling of
concentrator optics using POV-Ray.

I want to pursue the idea of making quantitative measurements of the
photons/rays passing through my modelled scene. The model is really simple:
just a bunch of mirrors and only a single reflection for each ray. I want to
find out the shape of the 'spot' that is formed when light reflects off an
imperfect mirror. I have previously done this using some commercial software
called OptiCAD but I would like to know if it can be done realistically with
POV-Ray instead.

The idea is to have a flat 'film' surface placed in the scene. This film would
do nothing except count the rays that pass through it, and record their
location, perhaps using a grid of 'bins'. Then, when a raytrace had been
completed, I would like to know how many rays had passed through each bin.

Such a thing can probably be hacked with POV-Ray by creating a lambertian
surface at the focal plane of my mirror, then 'looking at it' with the camera.
But this introduces extra complexity (extra surfaces, extra reflections,
possible multiple reflections) to the model that, for the sake of fully
understanding the process, I would rather avoid.

Can such a thing as a 'film' be added to POV-Ray? Is this idea compatible more
with the 'photons' techniques (which to me seem to be a bit of an approximation
to 'real' photo raytracing: the ideas of 'depositing' photons, and considering
'caustics' as entities in their own right doesn't entirely gel for me...)? Or
is it even perhaps compatible with the reverse raytrace 'from the camera' idea
somehow?

Any suggestions/thoughts would be very much appreciated.

Cheers
JP

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John Pye
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From: JetRacer
Subject: Re: Measuring the reflection from a parabolic mirror?
Date: 1 Dec 2007 16:55:00
Message: <web.4751d7ecfef11778278fa6d50@news.povray.org>
This sounds like if it's in the naybourhood of this section of the docs:
   2.3.10  SDL tutorial: A raytracer

The section is about creating a raytracer within the Raytracer using Pov-Ray's
script language and is probably the key to what you describe. A fair warning is
in place; this section isn't exactly light reading and makes the assumtion that
you have university level math skills.

If the idea of faking it seems more appealing after a glance on that one then
just reply so.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Measuring the reflection from a parabolic mirror?
Date: 1 Dec 2007 17:16:58
Message: <4751dd58@news.povray.org>
JetRacer <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> makes the assumtion that
> you have university level math skills.

  High-school math is enough.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: JetRacer
Subject: Re: Measuring the reflection from a parabolic mirror?
Date: 1 Dec 2007 19:05:01
Message: <web.4751f4f8fef11778278fa6d50@news.povray.org>
>   High-school math is enough.

You're right. I kinda meant the difficulty level rather than actual math (and
should have pointed that out).


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